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Kerrie

Kerrie Report 19 Jun 2007 07:57

Thankyou to everyone who have been helping me. It has been greatly appreciated. Yesterday the marriage certificate arrived and i am 99.9999% sure that this is them. Amy's place of residence is where i was hoping it would be. And Fredericks name is actually Francis Frederick and not the other way round. Thankyou Sylvia and Georgina for spotting that one out as i never even thought about that. No wonder i could never find him. I guess he got people to call him fred because he didn't like the name francis. I'm not sure what my next move is. I would like to look for the remaining brothers - Frederick, John and Roger. I'm guessing now though not to believe all the dates that i have been told, Anyways, Thankyou all very much, Kerrie

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Jun 2007 13:49

well if you want to get Jeremiah birth cert this is his ref. Sept qrt 1919 Jeremiah F Taylor mmn Lake Croydon 2a 431. Is poss that he is a full brother as he was born after the WW1 ended, depends of course if the dad was home by then !!

Kerrie

Kerrie Report 3 Jun 2007 12:25

Hello and thankyou for still trying to help me :) Siobhan- I guess the birthyear could be wrong, i mean it was quite common in those days wasn't it? I've sent off for their marriage certificate in the hope that it is them. They are saying that the certificate will be despatched on wednesday the 6th June so i'll probably get it around the 14th/15th June. I was talking to my grandfather and he told me that he felt that his brother Jeremiah wasn't his fathers son. That Jeremiah was born during the war and that is where his father was, so how did she fall pregnant etc..He has brown eyes, where the 10 other children had blue etc...The interesting thing though was that he told me that years ago Jeremiah applied for his birth certificate and to find that instead of Blake written as Amy's maiden name it was Lake. When they queried this they were told that it was written down as lake. So the plot thickens. Should i look for and apply for Jeremiah's birth certificate? Thanks for your help, Kerrie

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 1 Jun 2007 14:28

then this is 1891 Name: Amy Blake Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Lucy Gender: Female Where born: Short Heath Wrecclesham, Surrey, England Civil parish: Farnham Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Wrecclesham County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Farnham Sub-registration district: Farnham ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Albert Blake 2/12 Amy Blake 1 Arthur Blake 13 Edith Blake 15 Florence Blake 7 Frederick Geo Blake 5 Gertrude Blake 4 James Blake 9 Leonard Blake 2 Lucy Blake 41 William Blake 45 William Blake 11

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 1 Jun 2007 14:26

is this her in 1901 Name: Amey Blake Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Lucy Gender: Female Where born: Shortheath, Surrey, England Civil parish: Farnham Ecclesiastical parish: Wrecclesham St Peter Town: Wrecclesham County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Farnham Sub-registration district: Frensham ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 386 Household Members: Name Age Agness Blake 6 Albert Blake 10 Amey Blake 11 Arther Blake 23 Edward Blake 8 Frederick Blake 15 Gertrude Blake 14 James Blake 19 Leonard Blake 12 Lucy Blake 51 William Blake 55

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 1 Jun 2007 14:17

it could be possible that her year of birth is wrong on her death cert, so it could actually be 1889 that she was born rather than 1888, that would mean that the birth in croyden of a Amy Blake in 1889 first quarter is most likely to be her. I would say order that birth cert and the date of birth on it, should confirm whether it is her or not. regards, Siobhan

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jun 2007 14:09

That marriage cert of 1911 will tell you if she was married before plus will give her dads name so that would be the best one to get first

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 1 Jun 2007 14:00

Hi Kerry, Oh so her maiden name is definately Blake. The only birth in Amy Blake born in 1888 is Amy Ruth Blake west ham 4a 259 2nd quarter. Is there any possibility that she married a Blake before marrying Frederick Taylor. So in fact her real maiden name is something else. regards, Siobhan

Kerrie

Kerrie Report 1 Jun 2007 07:44

Thank Ozibird for the advice. Amy's death certificate is a British one. Alexandra- It could be Frederick. All i can do is try. This is a list of their children and the years they were born. Frederick John Thomas b.1912 Rosina b.1913 Albert b.1915 Jeremiah b.1919 Gertrude b.1920 Joseph b.1922 Lily b.1924 Roger Annie b.1929 Alexandra you wouldn't by chance know a Prisilla Griffith/s and/or a William Bates by any chance. They lived in Australia for a little while before returning back to England/Wales. Shirley- I found an email that mention that she talked of living at Turnbridge wells as a young child, so this could be where she was born. Siobhan- Amys' death is registered under Taylor not Blake. Her maiden name Blake was not written on the death certificate. The box where you write it in was crossed out. Is this a common thing to do? Janice- Thanks for the address and web address of the Croydon Advertiser. Thankyou for your help everyone, it is greatly appreciated, Kerrie

Janice

Janice Report 31 May 2007 12:33

Croydon Advertiser Contact details Address: 19 Bartlett Street, South Croydon CR2 6TB E-mail: newsdesk@croydonadvertiser*co*uk Website: http://www*croydonadvertiser*co*uk

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 May 2007 12:05

found the marriage of the Amy Joyce, can't find the marriage of the Amy Bobbett. I was wondering if perhaps Amy remarried after Frederick Taylor to a Blake???? as that would make sense why he death was registered under the name Blake.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 May 2007 11:49

Eridge also contains Eridge Green (an ecclesiastical parish formed on 5 February 1856 from the civil parishes of Frant and Rotherfield). Ozi.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 May 2007 11:48

I wondered if it would be in the parish of Frant but have had no luck. Ozi.

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 May 2007 11:01

whoops my error, thought it said Erith. these are the possibilities for Eridge Births Mar 1888 (>99%) BOBBETT Amy Muriel Tunbridge 2a 678 Scan available - click to view JOYCE Amy Annie Tunbridge 2a 680

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 May 2007 10:36

There is an Eridge in Kent .Its on the Crowborough to Tunbridge Wells road. Its two miles South of Tunbridge Wells so would have thought her birth would be under Tunbridge Wells reg district Update. theres been so many boundery changes and as Eridge was borderline Kent and Sussex its difficult to see what the Reg didtrict might have been I cant find Eridge listed in any district so think it came under a bigger area for registration

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 May 2007 10:33

this is the only Amy coming up in the 1891 census with correct year of birth and place of birth Erith Kent. Name: Amy P Buckingham Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Relation: Daughter Father's name: George Mother's name: Fanny Gender: Female Where born: Erith, Kent, England Civil parish: Erith Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Erith County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Dartford Sub-registration district: Bexley ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Adela L Buckingham 3/12 Amy P Buckingham 3 Fanny Buckingham 42 Fanny L Buckingham 5 George Buckingham 50 George F Buckingham 10 Walter C Buckingham 6 William H Buckingham 8

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 May 2007 10:29

could this be frederick in 1901 Name: Frederick Taylor Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Relation: Son Father's name: George Mother's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Freckleton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Blackpool Ecclesiastical parish: Marton St Paul Town: Blackpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Fylde Sub-registration district: Blackpool ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 136 Household Members: Name Age Agnes Taylor 14 Alice Taylor 9 Ann Taylor 36 Frederick Taylor 15 George Taylor 39 George Taylor 3 John H Taylor 6 Nathaniel Taylor 12 View Original Record View original image

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 May 2007 10:28

Possible birth and death for Frederick altho born before they married. Birth Frederick Taylor June 1911 Croyden 2a 324 Death Frederick Taylor June 1911 Croyden 2a 191

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 31 May 2007 10:13

Could this be their first child - registered as Taylor although the parents weren't married yet? Births Jun 1911 Taylor Frederick Croydon 2a 324 Deaths Jun 1911 Taylor Frederick 0 Croydon 2a 191 That Thomas J birth in 1912 may well be Thomas John - and the second child you mentioned.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 May 2007 09:45

Is your great-grandmother's death cert an Australian one? As Brit ones don't usually have place of birth. Ozi. This is interesting: Probably a relative of some kind- aunt? Marriages Mar 1891 BLAKE Amy Croydon 2a 304 Burnett Sophia Croydon 2a 304 Chappell Frank Croydon 2a 304 Larkworthy William Albert J Croydon 2a 304 1901: Name: Amy Chappell Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Frank Gender: Female Where born: Mintlyan, Norfolk, England Civil parish: Beddington Ecclesiastical parish: Purley Christchurch County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Shop, Brighton Road. Registration district: Croydon Sub-registration district: Mitcham ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 144 Household Members: Name Age Frank Chappell 30 - dairyman & cartage contractor Amy Chappell 31 Frank A Chappell 9 Sarah Allison 30 - dairy assistant.