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I wonder if this might be them in 1851. Have looked at the image and looks more like Hippey than Kippey. Sue

Sorry...senior moment!! These? Name: Samuel Kippey Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: S Luffenham, Rutland, England Civil parish: Ketton County/Island: Rutland Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Stamford Sub-registration district: Stamford ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 162 Household Members: Name Age Ann Kippey 47 Ann Kippey 4 John Kippey 6 Lizy Jane Kippey 8 Mary Kippey 14 Samuel Kippey 43 William Kippey 12

you're welcome. sorry couldnt find them on 51

Thank you Sue and Linda and definitely 'well done Linda', you have Francis' father Samuel there as well! Rutland is definitely a hippy county, no wonder they had to reinstate it - lol I think the 1841 is also them and perhaps Ann Andrew married Samuel Hippey after these two children. Such a shame that 1851 won't show itself. Frances

possible Francis in 1841? Name: Frances Hippey Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Gender: Male Where born: Rutland, England Civil parish: Belton Hundred: Oakham Soke County/Island: Rutland Country: England Street address: Occupation: View image Registration district: Uppingham Sub-registration district: Uppingham Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann Andrew 45 Frances Hippey 5 William Hippey 3

can't see anything for 51 though

Can't see them in 1841 either.

There are lots of Hippey?Hippy families in the area, but can't seem to find a Samuel and Ann together. Sue

1861 for ref Name: Francis Hippey Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1835 Relation: Son Father's name: Samuel Mother's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Ketton, Rutland, England Civil parish: Ketton Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough County/Island: Rutland Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Stamford Sub-registration district: Stamford ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 75 Household Members: Name Age Am Hippey 14 Ann Hippey 57 Francis Hippey 26 Samuel Hippey 53

Well done Linda!

Could this be them? Name: Mary M Hippey Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1838 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Wm Mother's name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: South Luffenham, Rutland, England Civil parish: South Luffenham Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough County/Island: Rutland Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Uppingham Sub-registration district: Uppingham ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Hannah Hippey 8 Mary Hippey 45 Mary M Hippey 13 Samuel Hippey 17 Wm Hippey 43

Samuel Hippey and Ann (no surname) get married 'About' 1832 in South Luffenham. They have children Francis 1835, Mary 1837 and a few more whose birth dates are 'About', in IGI. These don't tally too well with FreeBMD entries, which are mostly listed as Uppingham. I would be most grateful if I could see the 1851 census for this family and, because the births in Uppingham continue, the 1861. The IGI address is Ketton Cum Tixover (just outside Stamford) Many thanks, Frances