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can someone tell me where to look if someone was brought up in an orphanage in the middle 1800 in the bristol area. I imagine they were on the cesus. I have contacted one and waiting for the reply... did the children come up on the census.? thankyou anis

They should be on a census but may be logged by just their initials....So annoying if that happens. Do you want to post a name and details for others to help you? Gwyn

Dear Anis I have a relative in my tree who was in an orphanage in the Bolton area and he appears as normal on the census except it says 'orphan' and when you look at the census entry it shows all the other children. Best wishes Maria

their names were POWIS. unfortunatly, she was know as caroline, but apparently changed her name.....not sure about the name before hand.....her brother was william She's causing me lots of problems this one..... she had illigitamute kiddies with a rich man, she married a poor one, but gave the rich mans name to her children..... all very dodgy buseness!!loland this was in the 1800's....probably the 1860 and over. I have contacted muller's orphanage by email, but i think i'll phone them, and have also contaced the company she worked for (the rich man was apparently her boss........) he paid in money to her until her death....again, not too sure why!!! you know how family rumours go!!!! thanks for answering everyone......unfortunatly, i only have access to the free cesus records.... and she doesn't deem to be on there.....

Do you have details of her marriage? on the cert it should giveher pFathers name-you might be able tofind her as Caroline/? before she was orphaned-you could look then for her fathers death if yu knew the name and it might help with timescale of when she was orphaned. Do youi know when she died?

The might also be Bastardy records if she was recieving money from the Rich man.

Maybe someone could check this image for you?-she would be about 13 in this one if its her. Name: Caroline Powys Birth: abt 1837 - location Residence: 1851 - township, city, Worcestershire, England

Hi Anis can you add any more details or dates even approimate which might help?-How do you know about the name of the person she mareid-how do you knowhe wa porr-have you found them on a later census? even that would help as it would give a better idea of when Caroline was born?

she married a william jones in 1884 in islington....... at this time, she would have been young enough to have given birth to 6 children, all having the names of barnes jones. She apparently went to get the money from islingtons horticultural hall. the rich man was called wills (as in WD+HOWills cigarettes) a very rich man, who died with no hiers......(hummmmmm)!!!lol (she gave the middle name barnes to all her children......) As i've said, this story is family rumours, and i don't know if she was born in bristol (where this company first started...) or if she worked in the london part.... I'm guessing she would have been born around the 1960's, I have applied for the marridge cert, for POWIS+JONES

barsterdy records??? hi hi hi.....do they exist?!!???what would they be like?!!! would they be under her name???

Record Charlotte Barnes Jones 1880 Jul-Aug-Sep Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record Charlotte Barnes Jones 1907 Oct-Nov-Dec Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record James Barnes Jones 1905 Oct-Nov-Dec Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record John Barnes Jones 1904 Jan-Feb-Mar Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record Rebecca Barnes Jones 1885 Jan-Feb-Mar Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record Rebecca Barnes Jones 1909 Jul-Aug-Sep Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record Thomas Barnes Jones 1867 Jan-Feb-Mar Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record William Barnes Jones 1901 Oct-Nov-Dec Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex

Thanks for that look up...... i'd got most of their names......except Charlotte Barnes Jones 1880(the 1st one) which would have been before the POWIS + JONES marrige...... and Thomas Barnes Jones 1867....... I wonder where they come in then.... No one remembers them!!! Rebecca 1885 was knowen as florence...... hummm.... i really need those certs!!! lol**thanks again anis