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Thanks Shirley, I'm not sure.I think Ann was married before,I will have to check children from previous marriage.

Thanks Maureen,they could have died,but I've also been unable to find them in 1871.

Thanks both,dont think this was them.In1881 they lived in Hospital street and William was a button maker.

theres this one Name: Ann Lucas Age: 62 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relation: Mother-in-law Gender: Female Where born: Wootton, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: St Michael Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Town: Streethay County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:Old Station Occupation:living on own means Condition as to marriage: Widow Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Lichfield Sub-registration district: Lichfield ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Frank Allen 2 Fred C Allen 8 Martha Ann Allen 37 William Bromley Allen 36 -Railway Station master Harry F Fearenside 16 -boarder Railway booking clerk Ann Lucas 62 -mother in law Annie Pettifer 17 -domestic servant Thomas Smith 25 -boarder Railway booking clerk Shirley

could this be them?. William Jukes Age: 64 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St David County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann Jukes 68 William Jukes 64 a bootmaker

where were they on the 1881.

I ruled out the ones named as Jukes as occupation does not match the 1881 of button maker Could they have died by the 1891 census? Maureen

Hi, I'm looking for William Lucas c1827,b Birmingham & Ann Lucas c1827, b Birmingham. Thanks Andy