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Thanks Scarlett, I think most likely that you are right with the 1901 Census especially as you can't find anybody else.Yes she must have been quite huge at the time, you know more went on then as much as it is hard to believe than what goes on now. Well maybe a bit of exageration but not far off!!! Is there anybody there who can look up the Mann Family please that I left yesterday. Julia

quite probably wrong then - didnt know you knew all thos facts about her. it isnt unsual for an employer to get their staff details wrong - many had no idea who the even employed-in big households-let alone their middle names although 10 years age out is a bit extreme. cant find another that fits the bill though -------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Alfred Edward Gilham Year of Registration: 1902 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar DISTRICT: Elham County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 1079 Some what of an expanded waistline when she walked down the aisle then, by the look of it! How many times have we heard ''it didnt happen in my day'' Yes, right..............!

Hi Scarlett, thanks very much, but I have one problem with Margaret that you gave me, as her name is Margaret Ann and she was born in Elham Kent 1876 Sept Qtr 2a 922. Do you think that is just a mistake on their part as I know it happens.I do know that she had a son in 1902 Alfred Edward, I can't remember how I found this out but I think it is correct. Julia

Margaret & Alfred didn't marry until after the census Margaret Ann Amon 1901 Jul-Aug-Sep Elham Kent Alfred Edward Gilham 1901 Jul-Aug-Sep Elham Kent Volume: 2a Page: 2199 -------------------------------------------------- looks like Margaret is 'in service ' in 1901 Name: Margaret E Amon Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Rye, Sussex, England Civil parish: Folkestone Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Folkestone County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Elham Sub-registration district: Folkestone ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 159 Household Members: Name Age Margaret E Amon 36 Elizabeth Grosvenor 78 Sarah M Grosvenor 74 Ethel Nittleton 24

1) Name: Millicent Amon Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1900 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Richard Mother's name: Emily Gender: Female Where born: Folkestone, Kent, England Civil parish: Folkestone Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour County/Island: Kent Registration district: Elham Sub-registration district: Folkestone ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Emily Amon 24 Millicent Amon 1 Richard Amon 28 their marriage? Emily Maud Waters/Richard Thomas Amon 1898 Apr-May-Jun Romney Marsh Kent Volume: 2a Page: 2173

Hi Ozibird, Yes, how very very sad, it seems like this might be the one. You know John Eggleton B1850 I found his death 1853 in Hastings so both of those two children died too. Also found out when Thomas Tiltman died. Now is it possible to please look up 1901 Census for Richard Thomas Amon B1875 married to Emily and have one child Millicent. Folkestone Kent Sarah Elizabeth Baker & husband James Edward Baker for 1901 Census Folkestone Kent Margaret Ann & husband Alfred Gilham B1851 for l1901 Census Folkestone Kent. Have just come back to add this, I have been checking out births from 1845 when Sarah and James Mann married and there are a lot of b irths but the sad thing is I checked the first half a dozen out and they all died so I came to a stop I couldn't bear it. It was so sad, now I am wondering if you would be able to find me an 1851 Census on this couple please as I wondered if they had any children other than James b1846 who survived. Also after checking through the Ancestry I have found James Mann (son) and wife Elizabeth Ann in 1881 Census, checked 1891/1901 Census but I am not set up to look at them, any possibility please. James married Elizabeth Ann Chipp BPortsmouth Hampshire in 1867 Hastings. Later I think I will ask if you could look up the Census before she got married. Forget the top few that I asked you they aren't as important as the Mann family. Didn't mean to put all of this up but only checked out these after. Sorry Thanks Jules.

No luck. I wonder if this might be her. Deaths Mar 1880 Mann Sarah 51 Hastings 2b 12

Haven't found her yet but if these are all connected it's a sad little story. Births Dec 1855 Mann Ellen Jane Hastings 2b 19 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Sep 1864 Mann Ellen Hastings 2b 24[1_] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1867 MANN Ellen Jane M Hastings 2b 25 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Dec 1867 Mann Ellen Jane M 0 Hastings 2b 13

On to that now.

Hello Ozibird, I think I was reading more into it than it was, thanks for the other though, I suppose you couldn't look for 1871 upwards please. thanks, Jules

This is more hopeful: Marriages Sep 1845 ASHENDEN Ann Hastings 7 543 Aubery Sophia Hastings 7 543 Harman John Hastings 7 543 ...>>>MANN James Hastings 7 543 MEADOWS Mary Ann Hastings 7 543 ...>>>Miles Sarah Hastings 7 543 PURFIELD James Hastings 7 543 SNAITH John Hastings 7 543 Name: Sarah Mann Age: 37 Estimated birth year: abt 1824 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: James Gender: Female Where born: Hastings, Sussex, England Civil parish: Hastings All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: Chichester Town: Hastings County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address: Back of 64 All Saints St Registration district: Hastings Sub-registration district: All Saints Household Members: Name Age James Mann 34 - fisherman Sarah Mann 37 - housewife James Mann 15 - shop boy Ellen J Mann 5 - scholar all born Hastings

At this stage it doesn't look like it. Registration district for Folkestone Marriages Jun 1854 Baker Maria Elham 2a 1018 ...>>>Brice William Elham 2a 1018 ...>>>Davis Sarah Ann Elham 2a 1018

Thank you ladies, I have just come back and found all your hard work, much appreciated. I was going to check into the BMD but thought I would check in with you first and thank goodness I did. I'm sorry I wasn't around when you asked about Thomas/James as I have the 1871 Census and took note that James had the wrong age. I have the 1901 Census for James when he married. Now I can tell my contact that her and my Amelia are the same person and pass all of the information from you on to her. Now how would you like another one to check out for me. On Census 1861 For this same family there was a Sarah Ann Brice and William Brice, do you think you could check whether they are married or not please as I was wondering if Sarah was also Charlotte and Amelias sister I would like some more information on them. Thanks once again. Julia

TILTMAN is a local name in this area. If you want me to check any Folkestone parish records on fiche at the library, please send details in a PM. Gwyn

All Thomas & Amelia Tiltman as parents. Amelia Tiltman - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 11 OCT 1863 Folkestone, Kent, England 2. Charlotte Elizabeth Tiltman - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 06 FEB 1868 Folkestone, Kent, England 3. Thomas James Allen Tiltman - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 07 MAY 1856 Rye, Sussex, England 4. Joseph Tiltman - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 14 JUL 1858 Rye, Sussex, England

Charlotte Elizabeth Tiltman Female Christening: 06 FEB 1868 Folkestone, Kent, England : Parents: Father: Thomas Tiltman Family Mother: Amelia Tiltman

1871 image also looks litke Tiltman. I think Tiltman may be the correct name, rather than the other variants. Ozi.

Update , no looking at the image, James J is a son..age 5 with a stroke at he end that looks like a 7... Ennumerated as son.No husband at home - she's a mariners wife

1881: Not on this one. Name: Amelia Tiltman Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Thomas Gender: Female Where born: Hastings, Sussex, England Civil parish: Folkestone County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: 14 Bail St Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Washing Registration district: Elham Sub-registration district: Folkestone ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Tiltman 54 - Seaman SER Steamboats Amelia Tiltman 50 Joseph Tiltman 22 James J. Tiltman 15 Charlotte E. Tiltman 13 Fred A. Tiltman 9

Aha! Is this the case solved then Scarlett?