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I went on genuki and had a look. You could be right. I'd have to find a baptism record to prove it though!! Thank you very much

if you look really close at the cencus, though its very hard to read ,you can see this, ive been on the genuki website and gone through parishes that begin with L... 'Littleton'

Little Dean is a possibility Sue when I look again at the writing. I know what u mean about accents. Another of my ancestors was from Worcestershire, in a village called Suckley, it had been transcribed as Keiaster St Suckley!!

If the enumerators used a bit more ink it would help ! I can't think of any placename that fits. Have you seen a copy of their marriage entry? Maybe the witnesses would offer a few clues to help link Eliza to a family. William has an interesting name..... if it's been recorded correctly. Groombridge is a place in Kent so perhaps gives a hint of his origins. Gwyn

Had a quick look on Genuki - there's a Little Dean and a Lydney maybe the enumerator misheard or couldn't understand a Gloucestershire accent! My 2xgt grandfather came from Gloucs and London census takers seemed to have a huge problem - his name and place of birth is spelt differently every time! Sue

1841..........both parents 'not' born in county, but that still doesn't help with 1861. I would suggest that 1861 is an enumerator's error......... Name: Willm Gillman Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Civil parish: Bethnal Green Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Hackney Road Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Elizer Gillman 40 Henrietta Gillman 6 James Gillman 8 Maria Gillman 12 Mary Gillman 14 Sarah Gillman 2 Willm Gillman 40 Willm Gillman 15 Reg

yes thats 1851, for 1861 you have to put in Zillman. Thanks for all your efforts.. I dontl suppose this helps but I found their marriage on IGI June 20 1820 Shoreditch.. Her maiden name was Eliza Hunt. And he was William Groombridge Gillman!!

Is this 1851? Name: Eliza Gillman Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: William Gender: Female Where born: Bath St Cantebury Civil parish: St Katherine Cree County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: London City Sub-registration district: London City North East ED, institution, or vessel: 12a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 80 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Gillman 50 Esther Gillman 4 Henrietta Gillman 17 James Gillman 19 William Gillman 52 George Hopwood 22 Joseph Hopwood 3 Mo Mary Ann Hopwood 24 William Hopwood 2 John Powanda 58 If so, it doesn't help............ Reg

Yes Porkie Pie that is them on the 1851 census but on the 1861 census where they have been put down as Zillman, she has put her birthplace as Gloucestershire but I cannot decipher the town which looks a BIT like Lilly John!!

Eliza Gillman born about 1799 and her husband born about 1797. I am sure on the 1851 census she has put down canterbury as her birthplace. Her daughter Henrietta matilda was born 1833 bethnal Green. Hope this helps Thank you for trying.

their is this family on the 1851 census where husband william is born Bath St Cantebury but in 1851 wife is down as born Bath St Cantebury also could this be the same family? 1851 census Name: Eliza Gillman Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: William Gender: Female Where born: Bath St Cantebury Civil parish: St Katherine Cree County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: London City Sub-registration district: London City North East ED, institution, or vessel: 12a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 80 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Gillman 50 Esther Gillman 4 Henrietta Gillman 17 James Gillman 19 William Gillman 52 George Hopwood 22 Joseph Hopwood 3 Mo Mary Ann Hopwood 24 William Hopwood 2 John Powanda 58 Roy

what is her birth year or her daughters as that is wrong too LOL so we can find them on 1851 census Jeanette

Sure Thanks She's on the 1861 census as Eliza Zillman, her name was actually Gillman, there were lots of errors. Shes in St Boltolphs in London with her husband William born Canterbury Kent and children. Thanks Julie, I have even sat looking at it with a magnifying glass!!

Julie Could you post her name and say which census you found her please? Maybe we can track her back or forwards to find the actual place. Gwyn

Hello I have an ancestor who has put her place of birth as Lilly Hanor JOhn Gloucestershire. I am aware this must be misspelt in some way, does anyone have any idea what it could be?? Gratefully yours Julie