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Lindop/Bellas???

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(¯`*•.¸Scousenana.•*´¯)

(¯`*•.¸Scousenana.•*´¯) Report 16 May 2007 15:41

Thank you to everyone who gave me info, i'll send for Elizabeths birth cert this week to find out more. I'm definitely on the right track now... Elizabeth is definitely the daughter from the 1st marriage(got this from a family member) Thanks again Best regards Jean

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 May 2007 11:40

1881 will post this in case it matches the details of father on marriage cert. Name: Alexander White Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Martha A. Gender: Male Where born: Manchester Civil parish: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 6. 1 CT. Beau St Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Boot Closer Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alexander White 39 Georgina White 12 John White 8 Martha A. White 37 Richard White

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 May 2007 10:45

The Joseph found in 1881 is unmarried, so that would rule out the 1875 marriage as being relevant. The daughter's birth cert is really your best chance of having accurate info about wife number one.......... Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 May 2007 10:44

1861............ Name: Joseph Bellas Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Son Father's name: Joseph Mother's name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool Civil parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Eliz Bellas 13 Eliza Bellas 44 b. Liverpool Haj Bellas 14 Joseph Bellas 37 b. Keswick. Occ: Smith Joseph Bellas 4 Mark Bellas 10 Sarah Bellas 7 Robert Stephenson 32 Does the father's info tally with marriage cert? Reg

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 15 May 2007 23:54

The second marriage is on BVRI: Joseph Bellas, age 35, and Georgina White, age 22, married 25 Dec.1892, Everton, Lancashire. Husband's father Joseph Bellas, wife's father Alexander White.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 May 2007 23:45

1881 if this is him then I think occupation is different to later census Name: Joseph Bellas Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relation: Brother Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Walton On Hill County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 35 & 37 Rice Lane Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Pawnbroker Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Walton ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ada G. Bellas 7 Alfred Bellas 8 Eliza A. Bellas 10 Florence Bellas 5 Henry N. Bellas 35 H. N. Bellas 2 Joseph Bellas 23 Jos. W. Bellas 4 Sarah J. Bellas 35

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 May 2007 23:33

This is the document you really need.........birth Name: Elizabeth Bellas Year of Registration: 1885 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun DISTRICT: Liverpool (1837-1924) County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 112 Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 May 2007 23:29

1901 census....... Name: Joseph Bellas Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Georgina Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Everton Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: South Everton ED, institution, or vessel: 45 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 38 Household Members: Name Age Ada Bellas 13 Elizabeth Bellas 16 Georgina Bellas 32 Joseph Bellas 42 Joseph A Bellas 7 May Bellas 1 Sarah Bellas 6 months William H Bellas 6 1891 census.......Elizabeth seems to link the two Name: Joseph Bellas Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Annie Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Liverpool Civil parish: West Derby Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: West Derby (Municipal) ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Annie Bellas 32 Elizabeth Bellas 6 Joseph Bellas 35 First marriage?.........seems too early, somehow Ann Lindop 1875 Apr-May-Jun West Derby Lancashire Anne Lindop 1875 Apr-May-Jun West Derby Lancashire Joseph Bellas Cert would tell you her age and father's details. Have you found them together in 1881? Reg

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 May 2007 23:27

1901 is this the family Name: Joseph Bellas Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Georgina Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Everton Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: South Everton ED, institution, or vessel: 45 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 38 Household Members: Name Age Ada Bellas 13 Liverpool Elizabeth Bellas 16 Liverpool Georgina Bellas 32 Liverpool Joseph Bellas 42 Joseph A Bellas 7 May Bellas 1 Sarah Bellas 6 months William H Bellas 6 Think Ada is only 3 on image You might have to get the birth certs for the older children Maureen

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 May 2007 23:24

How old was he on the cert? What was his 'status'? Where did this marriage occur? Reg

(¯`*•.¸Scousenana.•*´¯)

(¯`*•.¸Scousenana.•*´¯) Report 15 May 2007 23:22

Hi, Can anyone help with the following please. I have the marriage cert of Joseph Bellas to Georgina White in Dec 1892, but i believe that Joseph was married previously to Ann, the only marriage i can find names her as Ann Lindop, i have searched the name and found a birth year approx 1857. I wondered if anyone can check out any info on the above. Long shot i know. Regards and thanks jean