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Trying to find Jane Ann Smithies b. 1852 with parents William and Mary in the Middleton/Tonge area, Lancs on the 1861 or possibly 1871 as she married in 1875. An address and family would be brill. There is a Jane b. 1840, that's not her, I have her details. Thanks to anyone in anticipation. Cheers Margaret.

Could this be her? Name: Jane A Smithies Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Middleton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Middleton Ecclesiastical parish: St Leonard Town: Middleton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Oldham Sub-registration district: Middleton ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 59 Household Members: Name Age Harry Smithies 4 Harvey Smithies 2 Jane A Smithies 8 Mary Smithies 28 Georgina.

Mary is a widow in 1861 so this could be her husbands death reference... Deaths Sep 1860 (>99%) SMITHIES William Oldham 8d 337 Georgina.

Thanks Georgina, That's brill, does look like her. Is there an address. The Smithies clan were abundant in the area and I just needed to get her with the right family. Was up till 3am this morning going round in circles!!

Margaret in 1861 they are living in Fielding Street (no number) Mary is a Hand Loom Silk Weaver. Georgina.

Mother has remarried in 1871 James St., Middleton, Lancashire Abraham Dawson, head, 50. labourer Mary, wife, 40, silk weaver Jane Ann Smithies, stepdau, 18, cotton weaver Wm. Hy. Smithies, stepson, 14, cotton piecer Harvey Smithies, stepson, 12, ?? Sarah Dawson, dau, 6, scholar James Dawson, son, 4, scholar Fanny Dawson, dau, 2 All born Middleton.

You're a star Georgina, Flicking through some of my paperwork and it all fits, address is great. Hadn't thought of William being gone. Have a great day and thanks ever so much. Cheers Margaret.

If this is their marriage then this looks like Mary in 1851.. Marriages Dec 1851 (>99%) Booth Martha Oldham 20 811 Collinge Hannah Oldham 20 811 Hardman Joseph Oldham 20 811 Hartley William Oldham 20 811 >>>Roberts Mary Oldham 20 811 >>>Smithies William Oldham 20 811 Travis Elizabeth Oldham 20 811 Wood Edward Oldham 20 811 1851 census... Name: Mary Roberts Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Abraham Mother's name: Alice Gender: Female Where born: Middleton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Middleton Town: Middleton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Oldham Sub-registration district: Chadderton ED, institution, or vessel: 1i Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Cornelias Bamford 5 Eliza Bamford 6 Emma Bamford 9 James Chalton 63 Abraham Roberts 40 Alice Roberts 35 Elizabeth Roberts 3 Mo Frances Roberts 16 Mary Roberts 18 Georgina.

This could be William in 1851 his address is Fielding Street.. Name: William Smithies Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Relation: Son Father's name: James Mother's name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Middleton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Middleton Town: Middleton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Oldham Sub-registration district: Chadderton ED, institution, or vessel: 1i Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 36 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Smithies 10 James Smithies 51 James Smithies 12 Mary Ellen Smithies 1 Sarah Smithies 43 Sarah Smithies 20 William Smithies 17 Georgina.

Wow Margaret, Superb, will check the whole family against all my info. Great, i'm thrilled. Thank you so much. Cheers Margaret.

This is Mary's second marriage... Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%) >>>Dawson Abraham Oldham 8d 915 Gartside Mary Oldham 8d 915 Hartley James Oldham 8d 915 >>>Smithies Mary Oldham 8d 915 Georgina.

Amazing, just found William and Mary's marriage in parish records, 30 th Nov., 1851. Wonderful both of you, know who William belongs to now, can go mad later when the housework is done. Just shows how a fresh pair of eyes can do the trick. Happy for the rest of the day. Cheers Margaret.