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Hi. If somebody could please look up passenger lists to the USA, not sure of exact year, but approximately 1910 (give or take 5 years?). Unsure of the port of entry. Name is Arthur Edwin Laing (b.1867, Stockton, England). He was travelling with a woman, unknown name. Thank you so much in advance! Carole

Found these two carole, sorry cant access any further but hopefully some-one else can do for you.Kaz LAING Arthur M 1909 Southampton USA New York LAING Arthur E 14 M 1912 Southampton USA New York

He was already in the US by 1910 1910 United States Federal Census about Arthur E Laing Name: Arthur E Laing Age in 1910: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Birthplace: England Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: England Mother's Birth Place: England Spouse's name: Elizabeth D Home in 1910: Utica Ward 11, Oneida, New York Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Year of Immigration: 1909 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Arthur E Laing 43 Elizabeth D Laing 32 Rose

Birth? England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about Arthur Edwin Laing Name: Arthur Edwin Laing Year of Registration: 1867 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar DISTRICT: Stockton County: Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding Volume: 10a Page: 108 (click to see others on page) Marriage? England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Arthur Edwin Laing Name: Arthur Edwin Laing Year of Registration: 1896 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar DISTRICT: Stockton County: Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding Volume: 10a Page: 96 (click to see others on page) View Image

Is this him with his grandparents in 1881? 1881 England Census about Arthur Edwin Laing Name: Arthur Edwin Laing Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relation: Grandson Father's name: Henry Mother's name: Margaret Francis Gender: Male Where born: Stockton On Tees, Durham, England Civil parish: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 1 Grosvenor View Education: Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information. Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: West Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann Catherine Laing 17 Arthur Edwin Laing 14 Ethel Mary Laing 3 Frederick Wm Laing 12 Henry Laing 42 Henry Allan Laing 15 Margaret Francis Laing 39 Oswald George Laing 9 Mary Potts 63 View Original Record Get all the details available on the original record image. Subscribe Now

Looks like the lady he married? Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1896 (>99%) Cowton Mary Stockton 10a 96 LAING Arthur Edwin Stockton 10a 96

Kaz, Was this on Ancestry? LAING Arthur M 1909 Southampton USA New York Because I don't see it. Rose

wondering if this is a daughter that went over later, cant see his wife heading there as yet? Anyone else see her? LAING Mary 10/12 1910 Glasgow USA New York

Hi Rose No i found that on fimd my past passenger list Kaz

Mother and child maybe??? LAING F 1909 Glasgow USA New York LAING 3 F 1909 Glasgow USA New York

Kaz, He married Agnes McCall. 1901 England Census about Agnes Long Name: Agnes Long [Agnes Laing] Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1900 Relation: Granddaughter Mother's name: Agnes Gender: Female Where born: Stockton-On-Tees, Durham, England Civil parish: Stockton On Tees Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Stockton On Tees County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Stockton Sub-registration district: Stockton ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 49 Household Members: Name Age Agnes Long 23 Agnes Long 1 Edwin C Long 3 Catherine McCall 46 James McCall 47 My betting is he left her for Elizabeth. Rose

Hi Kaz. Many thanks for looking it up for me. The date 1910 sounds about right. - there was no surname for Elizabeth? I have received some messages from Rose too - it's really nice of you guys to help me out like this!! Cheers Carole

Hi Rose. Many thanks for looking up the information for me! So kind... The date Kaz gave for passenger lists of 1910 sounds about right datewise. Shame there is no surname for Elizabeth D... Are there any more entries for Arthur, eg. addresses, occupation, children, date of death???????? He is proving to be quite the elusive butterfly!!!! The information on Agnes sounds right - and Edwin C is probably mispelled (Edwin O (Oswald) - my grandad). All the info from 1881 Census I already have (sorry should have said that last time)... The ages of Catherine and James are correct too, also Arthur's weding to Agnes is the right info (place and date). I was hoping for some addresses, marriage info, etc. for James and Catherine in Scotland... do you think you can look that up on the Scotland Census? Thank you! Cheers and thanks again!! Carole

Hi Kaz... Me again. Sorry, I didn't notice after Arthur E. was 14 M.... a fourteen year old male? in 1912... Not Arthur. The other entry above that one is not the correct initials. Carole

Carole, I don't see them in 1920 or 1930. The 1910 census says they've been married 8 years but have no children. Rose

Carole, I'm a little confused! Are you saying that Arthur abandoned his family in England and came to America with another woman? And is that him on the 1910 census in Utica, NY? If so could this be him? Utica New York Herald Dispatch, 1910: LAING- To A.E. and Elizabeth Crosby Laing of 68 Plant St., June 13, 1910, a son Arthur Laing.

Hi Carole I am now a little confused. I have read and re-read the thread and cant figure out where Elizabeth fits into all this, who is she? So i have the wrong person he married? Its not Mary but Agnes McCall,is that right? Kaz

Carole The first passenger list i sent you with: last name,first name,age,sex,year of dep,dep port,destination LAING Arthur M 1909 Southampton USA New York LAING Arthur E 14 M 1912 Southampton USA New York The Arthur 1909 hasnt got an initial, the M states he was male so it could be him.

Hi Kaz, Rose and Margaret!!!! Sorry for replying to all three of you at once, but it's getting confusing replying to 3 different ones!! Thank you all for helping me out like this!! Sorry for confusing you! Yes, Arthur married Agnes McCall, and they had 7 children. My grandad, Edwin Oswald Arthur, b 1897, was the oldest. When Arthur left the family (the story goes he ran off with the barmaid - name unknown) when the youngest, James, when Jimmy was either on the way, or newborn. Grandad was then the 'head' of the family and helped Agnes look after the family... sad eh?? Not sure of exact date of Jimmy's birth, but thinking around 1910.. could be a year or two either way. The entry for 1909 sounds promising (sorry about me thinking M was his initial!!!!..... what was I thinking???? It was late...). The Elizabeth/Arthur scenario does not sound right (married 8 years in 1910)... they could have been fibbing? If this is so, then Arthur had a son, also Arthur, according to the New York Newspaper!! That would give me a lead... somehow I don't think so though. Think I will go onto the message board on the trying to find and see if Arthur Junior, at the New York address, brings me any replies from the US?? I am thinking I should pay out the $200 US that it would cost me for an annual subscription to the US Ancestry.com.... but it is really getting me angry the amount I have spent already, buying credits, and also I took a 2 week trial of Ancestry.com and they billed my credit card for an annual subscription too!!! This scrapbook I am putting together for my mum for her 75th next year is starting to cost a fortune!!.... Anyway, ladies, thank you once again!! Talk soon! Cheers Carole

Wonder if this is Elizabeth? Births Sep 1877 CROSBY Elizabeth Dixon Stockton 10a 86 Age and area fits. Rose