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this is realy got me going have my grandfathers death cert and it general says widower of ,but on his cert it says nothing my dad told me his mum died before his dad,so why cant i find death cert for her

Where - exactly - have you looked? Reg

Joyce when did your grandfather die? Georgina.

Hi Joyce, Sorry, are you saying that widower is not on your grandfathers death certificate......which certificate is it on then ? Regards Vera

14 november 1918 what i meant to say its not on his death cert that his wife is dead looked on ancestry ,latter day saints

will try and have another look must be doing it wrong somewhere

You need to look on the FULL records............you clearly are looking only at transcribed ones, which, as you know.............go up to only about 1911. Reg

On a male death certificate they only give details of the deceased and the name and address of the informant, unless it was a child, then it will say son or daughter of and the father's name. On a famale certificates it will say wife or widow of, unless they are unmarried, then it will sometimes say daughter of. This realtes to women being considered of secondary importance to men. Jennifer

This is the address for deaths.........put it in your favourites............ http://content.ancestry(.)co.uk/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8966&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0 Copy and paste it to your browser bar, and make sure you delete the brackets. Register with the site..........it is FREE. Reg

hi reg do i put all the whole lot in if so have just done that and itwont come up

hi jenny it gives the informant as jenny bradley at the same address but dont know who she is

What date are we talking about? Have you searched the actual images for you grandmother's death, I am guesing it would have bee in the period not yet covered by transcribed indexes. Jennifer

Joyce what was your grandmothers name and when was she born? Is she alive on the 1901 census? Georgina.

my grandmothers name was helen morgan nee tyler born abt 1869 she married in 1892 she was still alive on the 1901 census ,so i think died before her hubby died in 1918

So this is the family in 1901 & your grandfather was Malcolm Bonner Morgan? Name: Helen Morgan Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Malcolm Gender: Female Where born: Manchester Civil parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Highbury ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 310 Household Members: Name Age Maud D Este 20 Bertie Morgan 4 Helen Morgan 33 Kenneth Morgan 7 Malcolm Morgan 29 Georgina.

Joyce I have had a quick look at the full indexes between 1913 -1918 and I cant see a death for her. I have to go out now but if no one has been able to help I will take another look later. Georgina.

ok thank you that is my grandfather and family bertie is my dad

Hi Joyce Cut and paste the address that Reggie gave you into your search bar - but take out the brackets. Jill

jill have done that and says page cant be found i did remove the brackets as well

On Ancestry. co homepage under the search box should be; Go directly to UK Birth, Marriage and Death records