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hi jeanette thats my grandmother and grandad so she must have come from manchester do you think,bertie is my dad joyce

1901 could this be her married she is down as coming from Manchester can't seem to match her up before marriage Helen Morgan Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Wife Spouses's Name: Malcolm Gender: Female Where born: Manchester Civil parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Highbury ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 310 Household Members: Name Age Maud D Este 20 servant Bertie Morgan 4 Helen Morgan 33 Kenneth Morgan 7 Malcolm Morgan 29 Bertie Morgan abt 1897 Barnet, Hertfordshire, England Son Islington London View Record Helen Morgan abt 1868 Manchester Wife Islington London View Record Kenneth Morgan abt 1894 Barnet, Hertfordshire, England Son Islington London View Record Malcolm Morgan abt 1872 Islington, London, England Head Islington London

SORRY - Ignore the William Tyler with wife Phoebe. I thought this was the same William that Reg found in 1881 but there are two William Tyler's born in Slawston within a year of each other. I'd say that William Tyler with wife Annie will be your family and daughter Ellen on the census will probably be your Helen on marriage certificate. You will need to look for Ellen/Helen's birth certificate to be sure. Kath. x

the daughter was helen tyler age 23,married in 1892 to malcolm bonner morgan ,age 21 there address was 7 risinghill street does this help

Joyce, first you should get a copy of the daughter's birth certificate. That will give you her mother's name, including maiden name. Then you can be sure to find the right marriage for her parents. Kate.

It would seem the first marriage to Phoebe is between 1861 and 1871, and the second marriage to Annie, between 1871 and 1881. But we need to know if we have got the right family before searching for marriages. Kath. x

The same William in 1861:- Name: William Tyler Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Medbourne, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Slawston County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Uppingham Sub-registration district: Great Easton ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Ann Tyler 46 Edward Tyler 14 Elizabeth Tyler 12 Henry Tyler 1 Joseph Tyler 16 William Tyler 51 William Tyler 19 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2309; Folio: 72; Page: 1

It looks like Annie was William's second wife, as he is in the 1871 census with Phoebe as his wife, although he is an agricultural labourer. Only one born Slawston:- Name: William Tyler Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Phoebe Gender: Male Where born: Slawston, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Hallaton Town: Hallaton County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Uppingham Sub-registration district: Great Easton ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 120a Household Members: Name Age John Tyler 1 Mary Tyler 4 Phoebe Tyler 30 William Tyler 29 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3304; Folio: 14; Page: 21 Kath. x

This is on 1881..........it's free Joyce. And you can search by occupation. Name: William Tyler Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Annie Gender: Male Where Born: Slawston, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: St Mary Islington County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 2 Kinloch St Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Beadle (Church Officer) Registration district: Islington Sub registration district: Islington East ED, institution, or vessel: 38b Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Annie Tyler 33................. Born in Chatham, Kent Charles Tyler Elizabeth Tyler 7 Ellen Tyler 13 Frederick Tyler 3 John Tyler 10 William Tyler 40 William Tyler 5 Is one of the daughters the one whose marriage cert you have? Reg

When did the daughter marry? And how old was she? What was her full name? Reg

From the marriage certificate, what was his daughter's name and age (this wil help to know about how old William might be). Does it give an address in London? If you are assuming he is dead in 1892 because it says 'deceased' on the marriage certificate, this isn't always the case. Sometimes the father is described as deceased if the person getting married doesn't have their parent's consent. Kath. x

what year was the oldest child born its easier to work around that date do you know christian name of wife as quite a few William Tyler's I presume from London Jeanette

could any help for the marriage of william tyler,occ beadle the only thing i know he was dead in 1892 thank you,joyce ps on his daughters marriage cert its london sorry cant be of more help