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My apologies Forget the Jane Smith on the 1901 census she was staying with Georgina Robey abt 1884 Robins Hoods Bay, Yorkshire, England Wife Witton le Wear Durham Joseph Robey abt 1881 Crook, Durham, England Head Witton le Wear Durham I should have checked the image !! Apologies

The 1901 posted earlier has Jane Smith as mother-in-law. So the Joseph Smith I found in 1871 was not the right one. Or are we looking at 2 different Joseph Smiths! Back to the search again! (switching off for a while - very black clouds coming this way, with thunder etc)

Thanks anyway Elaine. Smith is such a common name. Gail

Have just realised (by checking the 1861/1871 census) that Thomas b c1829 was born in Northumberland. There are 21 possibilities in Northumberland - and together with the 30+ possibilities in Durham it is somewhat of an impossible task for me at the moment! Maybe someone else will feel strong enough to do the search for you - sorry I cannot help.

His father is a Thomas as well and is a pitman. Gail

Looking at the 1861 and 1871 census that have been found it would appear that Thomas was born c 1829. Searching the 1841 census for Thomas Smith b 1829 +/- 2 years in Durham - gives 30 possibilities. Without his father´s name it is impossible to find the right one!

You say that Thomas Smith married Mary Davison in 1851 - do you have their marriage certificate. You will really need Thomas´s father´s name and occupation if you have any chance of finding them successfully on the 1841.

The Broadley family is correct. The smith family were found for 1861/71 have been found. I would like the 1841 fo Thomas Smith if Possible. Gail

Can´t seem to find the 1901 family in the 1891 census.

sorry - messages crossed - so do you think the 1901 is correct ?

Here is an 1871 census showing a Dorothy Broadley with family - have checked image and name is definitely Broadley Barbara Bradley abt 1855 Cachoe, Durham, England Daughter Auckland St Andrew Durham Dorothy Bradley abt 1861 Coundon, Durham, England Daughter Auckland St Andrew Durham Jane Bradley abt 1850 New Durham, Durham, England Daughter Auckland St Andrew Durham John Bradley abt 1867 Southchurch, Durham, England Son Auckland St Andrew Durham Mary A Bradley abt 1826 Tynemouth, Northumberland, England Wife Auckland St Andrew Durham Richard Bradley abt 1827 Clapon, Lancashire, England Head Auckland St Andrew Durham Richard Bradley abt 1864 Coundon, Durham, England Son Auckland St Andrew Durham William Bradley abt 1852 Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England Son Auckland St Andrew Durham Richard´s occupation - coalminer Dorothy´s birth here shown as c1861 Coundon, Durham - which matches the birth year and place on the 1901 Does Dorothy´s marriage certificate show her father to be Richard ?

Hi Elaine, Yes she was born in Coundon. And I have about her and her father who is Richard Rushton. It is the smith lot that are proving troublesome. Thanks Gail

Elaine. Thanks for that info. Gail

Do you have Dorothy and Joseph´s marriage certificate - if so what was Dorothy´s father´s name and occupation ? (Am trying to match the Dorothy I found in the 1901 census with a Dorothy Broadley b 1861 Coundon in the 1871 census)

a possble in 1901 Abbert Smith abt 1887 Bishop Auckland, Durham, England Son Witton le Wear Durham Anna Smith abt 1889 Newfield, Durham, England Daughter Witton le Wear Durham Dorothy Smith abt 1862 Coundon, Durham, England Wife Witton le Wear Durham Esther Smith abt 1886 Bishop Auckland, Durham, England Daughter Witton le Wear Durham Jane Smith abt 1845 Tow Law, Durham, England Mother-in-law Witton le Wear Durham John Smith abt 1900 Witton Park, Durham, England Son Witton le Wear Durham Joseph Smith abt 1862 Cockfield, Durham, England Head Witton le Wear Durham Mary Smith abt 1894 Witton Park, Durham, England Daughter Witton le Wear Durham Ralph Smith abt 1892 Green Lead, Durham, England Son Witton le Wear Durham Richard Smith abt 1884 Bishop Auckland, Durham, England Son Witton le Wear Durham Thomas Smith abt 1883 Byres Green, Durham, England Son Witton le Wear Durham Do you know when and where Dorothy was born ?

Joseph´s marriage Marriages Sep 1881 BROADLEY Dorothy Auckland 10a 210 Smith Joseph Auckland 10a 210

I am begining to think I am not any good at this. But to answer your question no. Gail

Have you found Joseph and Dorothy after their marriage?

Same family as 1871.

Amazing what one can find when all the info is given...................1861 census Name: Joseph Smith Age: 7 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's name: Thomas Mother's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Spennymoor, Durham, England Civil parish: Whitworth Ecclesiastical parish: Whitworth County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Auckland Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 56 Household Members: Name Age James Smith 3 Joseph Smith 7 Mo Mary Smith 26 Sarah Jane Smith 6 Thomas Smith 32 Thomas Doveson Smith 9 You see, Gail, you knew a lot more than your original request said you did!! Reg