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Penelope, Me too, bed time calling.... Thanks for all your help, and also to you Reg and JeSS. It is very much appreciated.

Off to bed now - good luck Lisa. x

Reg, In answer to your question, I don't know, so it could be totally wrong!

Reg, I'll check my tree and look at the info, to see where the info came from, or from whom.

Thanks Penelope. Have not heard of that one? I will make a note of it and have a look later.

Lisa I'm puzzled........you say you don't know when William and Elizabeth married.......or her maiden name, yet you seem to know his father's name. If you could tell us where that info is from, it may help us to find more details............ Reg

Located possible marriage - strange name - need to view image, lol ! Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1840 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BAILEY George Lutterworth 15 211 *COOPER William Lutterworth 15 211 CUMBERLIDGE George Lutterworth 15 211 *HALL Hepzibah Lutterworth 15 211 POOLE Sarah Lutterworth 15 211 SMITH Ann Lutterworth 15 211

Thanks JeSS for the info on the HALL's... You are taking me on another path, and all of your help so far, including Penelope and Reg's has exceeded my expectations of what help people give, and I have info now, which will please my mum, beyond her wildest dreams.... Her sister is here from the US at the moment and she too will be thrilled with all this info. Thank you all so much for what you have done and are doing.

Have you checked the IGI at the following web addy - www(.)familysearch(.)org just remove brackets At the mo - just running a search for a marriage between William Cooper and bride ? HALL x

Thanks Penelope. I am therefore assuming that this is possibly Elizabeth COOPER's (1821) mother then, Sussanah Hall, so her maiden name should possibly be HALL. I think I'm getting to grips with this now. Anyone any ideas on where I go next on getting details on Williams (1820) siblings and further on parents as Census' don't go back any further?

Bakehouse Lane in Lutterworth Normally if visiting it would be marked as visitor...but... not always the case - every enumerator had their own 'little ways', lol. x

either.

JeSS sorry about this, is the Bakehouse lane in Kettering or Lutterworth?

JeSS does that mean he 'lived' there, or is it that when they take the census details it included visitors for that day,and that he could have been visiting?

it was young Thomas that confused me. 1851 here he is ,usefully with ?Granny View Record Thomas Cooper abt 1841 Lutterworth, Leicestershire, England Grandson Lutterworth Leicestershire View Record Susannah Hall abt 1780 Lutterworth, Leicestershire, England Head Lutterworth Leicestershire again in Bakehouse Lane ---------------------------------------------------------- ''Granny'' 1841 View Record Elizabeth Hall abt 1816 Leicestershire, England Lutterworth Leicestershire View Record George Hall abt 1781 Lutterworth Leicestershire View Record Sarah Hall abt 1814 Leicestershire, England Lutterworth Leicestershire View Record Susanah Hall abt 1782 Leicestershire, England Lutterworth Leicestershire

Penelope, Your last log with the address Bakehouse Lane, sounds familiar, as my mum mentioned that address, so that entry may be linked.

Reg and Jess What do you think 1841 ??? Based search on details from 1861 census Thomas William not born in county View Record Thomas Cooper abt 1837 Leicestershire, England Lutterworth Leicestershire View Record William Cooper abt 1819 Lutterworth Leicestershire Source information: HO107/598/14 Registration district: Lutterworth Sub-registration district: Lutterworth ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Folio: 16 Page: 24 (click to see others on page) Line number: 9 GSU Number: 438747 Addy = Bakehouse Lane Occupation of William = painter

Jess Looks like it, with the Warner being the most unusual of the names appearing in both Reg

Hi Jess - same family x

Another child's birth reg'n Name: John Noble Cooper Year of Registration: 1849 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Kettering County: Northamptonshire Volume: 15 Page: 305 Reg