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a possible in1871 Elizabeth Golding abt 1852 Poplar, Middlesex, England Servant Shadwell London married in 1881 Elizabeth Bonicrie abt 1853 London, Middlesex, England Wife Bromley St Leonard London (mistranscribed -should be Bouverie) In 1891 listed as Elizabeth Barberie b1855 Westminster (again should be Bouverie) and in 1901 listed as Eliz Bouverte b 1853 Poplar (again mistranscribed - should be Bouverie) A nightmare family !!!

Have you found Elizabeth anywhere? Reg

Sorry - had to dash off for a while. Reggie you are right - Elizabeth´s parents are Francis and Ann and Darksecretz you are right - have put the 1851 census information on because of the Goulding/Freeman connection, and similar address. Just felt that there had to be a connection somewhere - but at the moment I can´t see it.

hiya reg, i think elaine has put that family on because elizabeths mother ann WAS a freeman, and there are aslo goldings with same occupations in that census return, also they live on same st as elizabeth was born, possiblily a connection, g/parents/aunts etc.. hth Julie

I may be missing something here.........forgive me if that's the case...........but if Elizabeth's father and mother are Francis and Ann........who are the people in 1851? Reg

Looking for Elizabeth Goulding on 1861 census Elizabeth born 1852, address at time of birth registration 7 Grundy Street, Bromley father Francis Goulding occ. boilermaker mother Ann Goulding, late Freeman, formerly Delay. Have found 1851 census with a Goulding/Freeman link James Goulding abt 1807 Belstone, Staffordshire, Head Bromley St Leonard Jamia Goulding abt 1811 N Wife Bromley St Leonard Francis Goulding abt 1839 Bilstone, Staffordshire, Son Bromley St Leonard John Goulding abt 1842 Deptford, Kent, Son Bromley St Leonard Joseph Goulding abt 1829 Bilstone, Staffordshire, Son Bromley St Leonard Ann Freeman abt 1848 Blackwell, Middlesex, Daughter Bromley St Leonard Ellen Freeman abt 1847 Poplar, Middlesex, W;d Bromley St Leonard Ivonnah Freeman abt 1842 Blackwell, Middlesex, W;d Bromley St Leonard Jane Freeman abt 1845 Blackwell, Middlesex, Daughter Bromley St Leonard Sarah Freeman abt 1849 Poplar, Middlesex, Daughter Bromley St Leonard (The Freeman children are the wife´s children) Ellen Freeman is aged 11 on the image - therefore born 1840 James Goulding - boilermaker address 1 Grundy street, Bromley Have found marriage of Ann Delay/William Freeman 1839 Jul-Aug-Sep - Stepney - Volume: 2 - Page: 401 Would expect to find them together on the 1841 census -but can´t see them at the moment. Can anyone find the above family on the 1861 census, or find Elizabeth with her parents Francis and Ann? Thank you Elaine

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