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Impossible Marriage to find and I have both names!

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Lynn

Lynn Report 28 Mar 2006 18:41

If you can help me with this impossible and frustrating search please,,,,, see below

Lynn

Lynn Report 28 Mar 2006 18:42

I have the birth certificate of Ann Edge who was born in 1851 in Hatherton, in sub district of Wybubbury, in the registration district of Nantwich in the County of Chester. Ann Edge stays in cheshire for the rest of her life. The problem is I CAN'T FIND her parents marriage certificate. Their names are WILLIAM EDGE and ANN WALKER.

Jess Bow Bag

Jess Bow Bag Report 28 Mar 2006 18:43

what happens in the 1851 census? can you see the parents there - are they married then?

Georgina

Georgina Report 28 Mar 2006 18:46

Lynn if this is Ann in 1861 it says her father is Thomas not William.. Alfred Edge abt 1849 Nantwick, Cheshire, England Son Broughton Lancashire Ann Edge abt 1821 Nantwick, Cheshire, England Wife Broughton Lancashire Ann Edge abt 1850 Nantwick, Cheshire, England Daughter Broughton Lancashire Ellen Edge abt 1861 Broughton, Lancashire, England Daughter Broughton Lancashire Mary Edge abt 1856 Broughton, Lancashire, England Daughter Broughton Lancashire Sarah Jane Edge abt 1854 Nantwick, Cheshire, England Daughter Broughton Lancashire Thomas Edge abt 1823 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Head Broughton Lancashire Georgina.

Jane

Jane Report 28 Mar 2006 18:47

now......... i know this one is slightly late, BUT this also happened to me, my gg grandparents married 20 after the children were born, on all census wife was married name, but it was all a lie !!!!! Marriages Mar 1875 ------------------------------ EDGE William Henry Liverpool 8b 338 Walker Annie Liverpool 8b 338

Jane

Jane Report 28 Mar 2006 18:51

1851....... also Thomas !!! Alfred J Edge abt 1849 Nantwich, Cheshire, England Son Nantwich Cheshire Ann Edge abt 1821 Nantwich, Cheshire, England Wife Nantwich Cheshire Ann Edge abt 1850 Nantwich, Cheshire, England Daughter Nantwich Cheshire Maria Edge abt 1845 Nantwich, Cheshire, England Daughter Nantwich Cheshire Thomas Edge abt 1823 Liverpool Head Nantwich Cheshire

Lynn

Lynn Report 28 Mar 2006 18:53

The birth cert defo says William is her father. All I can think is that they are not from cheshire Lynn

Jane

Jane Report 28 Mar 2006 18:55

well this looks like Thomas & Ann's marriage............ she s not a Walker !! so think we can discard this family now then. Marriages Jun 1842 ----------------------------- CRITCHLEY Ann Nantwich 19 134 EDGE Thomas Nantwich 19 134

Jane

Jane Report 28 Mar 2006 18:59

think this is them in 1851 now.................... Nantwich rd, Hankelow, Cheshire A Edge abt 1825 Wybunbury, Cheshire, England Wife Hankelow Cheshire Emma Edge abt 1850 Audlem, Cheshire, England Daughter Hankelow Cheshire George Edge abt 1848 Frodsham, Cheshire, England Son Hankelow Cheshire William Edge abt 1824 NK Head Hankelow Cheshire FARM LABR

Lynn

Lynn Report 28 Mar 2006 19:03

This looks likely because in 1871 census, when their daughter ann is married it says she is from Hankelow, cheshire (it is the only one that does). All i can think is their marriage has not been transcribed on to BMD and I shall have to through each quarter. Lynn

Lynn

Lynn Report 28 Mar 2006 19:06

I have just checked Ann juniors marriage and there is an Emily Edge as a witness....don't know relation - perhaps sister or aunt. There is no reference to her father william's profession

Suzy

Suzy Report 28 Mar 2006 19:14

Lynn Have you checked Ancestry Beta, quarter by quarter? I have had a quick look at 1847 and 1848, and there are a few William Edge's you could cross reference with Ann Walker. Suzy

Lynn

Lynn Report 28 Mar 2006 19:17

Yes, have just started to do it. I think it is the only option left.

Lynn

Lynn Report 28 Mar 2006 19:19

I have a hunch the 1851 find is right but now I can't find them in 1861. Arghhh

Mags & Nicky

Mags & Nicky Report 28 Mar 2006 19:24

I don't know if this will help, but here are some Edges born same place. This appears to be all submitted from same person, I'll continue looking. 1. Allan Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: M Birth/Christening: 9 Jun 1904 Wheeling, West Virginia 2. Annie Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: F Birth/Christening: Jan 1877 England 3. Ann Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: F Birth/Christening: 10 Dec 1810 Wybunbury, Cheshire, England 4. Arthur Chester Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: M Birth/Christening: 7 Nov 1882 East Liverpool, OH 5. Charles Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: M Birth/Christening: 3 Apr 1844 Commercial Street, Burslem, Staffordshire, England 6. Charles Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: M Birth/Christening: 6 Jul 1813 Wybunbury, Cheshire, England 7. Charles Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: M Birth/Christening: Jun 1885 8. Charles Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1776 9. Eddie Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: M 10. Edwin Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1854 Burslem, Staffodshire, England 11. Elizabeth Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: F Birth/Christening: Oct 1868 England 12. Elizabeth Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: F Birth/Christening: 22 Dec 1818 Wybunbury, Cheshire, England 13. Ellen Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1867 Staffordshire, Burslem, England 14. Emma Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: F 15. Hanna Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1849 Staffordshire, Burslem, England 16. Harry William Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: M Birth/Christening: Feb 1890 West Virginia 17. James Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: M Birth/Christening: 4 Dec 1815 Wybunbury, Cheshire, England 18. James Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1841 Staffordshire, Burslem, England 19. John Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: M Birth/Christening: 12 Dec 1836 Lancashire, Ashton, England 20. John Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: M Birth/Christening: 3 Jan 1808 Wybunbury, Cheshire, England 21. Mary Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: F Birth/Christening: 9 Feb 1806 Wybunbury, Cheshire, England 22. Sarah Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: F Birth/Christening: 15 Apr 1804 Wybunbury, Cheshire, England 23. Virginia Edge - Pedigree Resource File Gender: F Birth/Christening: 24 Apr 1909

Kate

Kate Report 28 Mar 2006 19:55

Can't see them on Cheshire BMD. Don't forget that somebody could be born in 1851 to parents who got married before the start of civil registration, though if the family on the 1851 is correct and if they weren't lying about their ages this is unlikely in this case. Mind you, I have seen some people whose ages were about 15 years out, so it is possible! If you haven't been through the GRO marriage indexes quarter by quarter yet it is certainly worth a try. Look for William Edge and whenever you find one see if there is a matching Ann Walker. Start with the quarter when their daughter whose birth cert you have was born and work backwards from there (don't assume they would have married before the birth of one of the other children on the 1851 because they could have a different mother.) If you don't find their marriage all the way back to 1837 then they could have married after the child was born, or not at all, or they could have married before the start of civil registration in which case you would need to search parish records. Happy hunting! Kate.

Lynn

Lynn Report 28 Mar 2006 20:06

Thanks kate, I am on the case and am going quarter by Quarter. Searched 1851-1847 no matches so far. Lynn

Jane

Jane Report 28 Mar 2006 20:08

right i'm back again now..................... raring to go, i WILL find them in 1861 !!!!!!!! Jx

Jane

Jane Report 28 Mar 2006 20:14

LYNN......................... I'VE GOT THEM !!!!!!! 1861 Well st, Tunstall, Staffs Hannah Edge abt 1826 Buckley, Cheshire, England Wife Tunstall Staffordshire John Edge abt 1857 Grindley Broth, Cheshire, England Son Tunstall Staffordshire Mary Edge abt 1859 Tunstall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Tunstall Staffordshire William Edge abt 1823 Tilston, Cheshire, England Head Tunstall Staffordshire Elizabeth France abt 1848 Grindleton, Cheshire, England Wifes Daughter Tunstall Staffordshire Hannah France abt 1853 Grindley Broth, Cheshire, England wifes Daughter Tunstall Staffordshire Margret France abt 1851 Grindley Broth, Cheshire, England wifes Daughter Tunstall Staffordshire George WALKER**** abt 1847 Frodsham, Cheshire, England wifes Son Tunstall Staffordshire just off to check original, be right back ! mmm. not so sure now, sorry. Marriages Mar 1857 ----------------------------- Edge William Whitchurch 6a 950 France Hannah Whitchurch 6a 950 was hoping this was before 1851. my theory was that Hannah / Ann maiden name was Walker, married Mr France , then William Edge, explaining why we can't find marriage as Ann Walker

Mags & Nicky

Mags & Nicky Report 28 Mar 2006 20:20

Interesting, with George Walker prev Edge!! Must be same family. Where is Ann though? Do you think she was also born Walker? George was perhaps illegitimate.