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Sarah I have recieved this today 1861 Census for Robert Rogers Hope it helps Isobel 1861 Census, Auckland District Family Number: 28193.6 Helmington Row 1861 Census, Helmington Row Robert Rogers [Rodgers], Head, Married, 30, Coal Miner, born Bedlington, Northumberland Mary Rogers [Rodgers], Wife, Married, 28, born Percy Main, Northumberland Elizabeth Rogers [Rodgers], Daughter, 7, born Tanfield Lanchester [both stated], Durham William Rogers [Rodgers], Son, 4, born Tanfield Lanchester [both stated], Durham Mary Jane Rogers [Rodgers], Daughter, 2, born Tanfield Lanchester [both stated], Durham John Beason [Beaston(?)], Lodger, 22, Coal Miner, born Percy Main, Northumberland William Nichol, Lodger, 19, Coal Miner, born North Shields, Northumberland Archie Pearson, Lodger, 19, Coal Miner, born Bedlington, Northumberland

Isobel - not yet. I asked some people on the board for 1851 and 1861 census lookups to narrow down the search and now know I'm looking for a marriage between 1851 and 1854/5. All their children are born in Durham, so perhaps they also married in Durham? I'll check Wallsend marriages for that period but if I have no joy I think you'll have to look at the GRO lists on Ancestry.

Sarah I sent a private message re Besom or Robson marriage any luck. Also any luck with the Wallsend marriage. Isobel

Hi Sarah, Thanks very much for looking up my Marshall family. The baptisam record you found looks very promising. You asked whether I have any census returns for 1841 and 1851 for my Marshall family, in order to help you locate a marriage for Robert and Ann Marshall. Unfortunatley the earliest census I have for them is 1861 where they were living in Tynemouth at Brewery Bank. Their daughter who was born in 1830 was born in North Shields, so possibly they were married in North Shields. I would love a census return for any of those years in possible. Many thanks for the research you have done so far, I'm very very grateful. Fern.

Hi Sarah, As I said, not much to go on.........the reg'n district was Tynemouth, but none of the place names on genuki seem to 'fit'. I think it's better to leave it for now................I appreciate your having tried, but I don't think it fair to trouble you any more. If I can glean anything more positive, I'll take the liberty of asking on another occasion. Thanks again, Reg

Johnathon Couldn't find John's baptism in the Cornhill baptism records (or for any Redman between 1840 and 1864 (again very small parish so often a year's baptisms would fit on one or two pages). Will try and work out where else he could possibly have been baptised.

I really don't seem to be having much luck at this! Brian - tried to find Margaret's baptism but failed miserably. Ancroft (because Screamerston doesn't get it's own church until 1840s) seems to be a very small parish so I did a search between 1805 and 1830 and this is the only Blackett baptism I could find! 25 February 1816 Matthew Blackett son of William and Jane, Screamerston, father's occupation = blacksmith Will need to work out what other possible places she could have been baptised and check there.

Hi Sarah,thankyou very much for all the people you found for me.(The Weatherheads) You ask if maybe Samuels wife was still around in 1851 census,but it says widower not just W,I do hope he wasnt just wishfull thinking!!! Thanks again Sheila

Hi Sarah Mary Besom was listed as mothers name on son Robert Rogers death certificate. Robert Rogers was born 1873 Lanchester Durham, according to 1881 census. They also had a William abt 1857 born Lanchester Someone looked at the death certificate for me I don't know if they have transcribed incorrectly or not I will go back to them and ask if there is a possibility of a different name. Isobel

Hello Sarah, Many, many thanks for looking, all very much appreciated indeed!! I do understand that the records can be rather feint and difficult to read (let alone breaking film!), so the small info you found for me, is valued. At least I have something. Thanks again. Regards, Marcus

Isobel - Having difficulties finding Mary Besom. I checked the Wallsend Anglican records between 1830 and 1836 and didn't find any Besom children at all. The only thing I found was the following 13th October 1833 Mary Ann illegitimate aughter of Isabella Bottom, Wallsend, Single Woman. Where did you get Mary's name from? Is it possible that her surname is something else? I'll look at the non-conformist registers next time just to make sure she isn't there. Can you give me a possible date range for their marriage? Do you know when and where their children were born? Might help narrow things down a bit.

Fern - I tried looking for Robert Marshall's baptism in Tynemouth about 1785.The registers were very hard to read and the bit I took this from was covered in tape to try and stick it back together! This made it so hard to read but what I think it said was 30 April 1786 Robert son of Robert and Jane Meishal (could be Marshall?) of Tynemouth Have you got 1851 and 1841 census returns for the family? I could do an 1841 census lookup but an 1851 census return might help me find out if they're likely to be in Tynemouth or North Shields. Once we start narrowing things down it'll be easier to start looking for a marriage. At the moment we're looking at a 30 year search period and Tynemouth is a fairly busy parish! And thats if he even married in Tynemouth or they married in North Shields.

Well tonight has been a bit dissapointing! Ah well, read below. Sheila - Had a look for the burial of a Mary Weatherhead between 1846 and 1851 at the only Anglican Church in Berwick that we have the parish records for in the library and couldn't find her! Perhaps she wasn't buried in the church? COuldn't find any GRO records but I'll ask when I'm next in in case they do have them, they're just hidden! Are you sure that her husband isn't still married and the M looks like a W and his wife has gone visiting down the road? Just a thought. In the meantime I wonder if you'll find any of these helpful Berwick Holy Trinity Burials (Date, Name, address, age) 10 June 1840 John Weatherhead, (Western Law?) Berwick, 2 weeks 22 March 1843 Alice Weatherhead, Church Street Berwick, 70 years 2 March 1845 Elizabeth Weatherhead, Castlegate Berwick, 59 years 1 August 1846 Mary (Weatherly?), Golden Square Berwick, (8?)6 years 19 September 1847 William Weatherhead, Castlegate Berwick, 70 years 23 November 1848 William Weatherhead, (Watts?) Berwick, 65 years 11 January 1849 Mary Weatherhead, Poor house Berwick, 86 years 29 July 1849 Thomas Weatherhead, Castlegate Berwick, 65 years 4 March 1850 James Weatherhead, (Hatters?) Lane Berwick, 70 years 28 June 1850 Margaret Weatherhead, (Hatters?) Lane Berwick, 65 years

Brian - Screamerston doesn't have it's own church until the early 1840s. Instead they apparently use Ancroft. I did go to look at the Ancroft registers but they were labelled as fragile and after already having one film break on me tonight felt it was best left until another day, so will look soon don't worry! Everyone else - More lookup results will follow later in the week!

Vicky - They have parish records on microfilm of Elsdon, Holystone and Alwinton. The Holystone ones are only for the years 1815 to 1992 from what I can tell. Isobel - Yes that have Wallsend so will do that look up for you! As for Robert Rogers I found this on the Bedlington St Cuthbert Baptisms May 22nd 1831 Robert son of John and Jane Rogers, Bedlington, Butcher (father's occupation) I also found the following 22nd January 1826 William son of of John and Jane Rogers, Bedlington, Butcher (father's occupation) 27th July 1828 Jane daughter of of John and Jane Rogers, Bedlington, Butcher (father's occupation)

Reggie - I can't seem to find West Moor, or a church at West Moor. If you can give me an idea of where it is I'll try and have another look for you Marcus - I couldn't find Alexander's baptism. I did check from 1798 to 1811 at Norham. Before 1798 it's incredibly difficult to read as it's pretty much faded away. Those I could read weren't White's. Unfortunately the Norham films are one of the very fragile ones and one of them did finally break tonight while I was using it (not my fault I was assured by the librarian!) so it'll be dificult to do any further Norham look ups. I have however, found the following which might be of interest to you from the Norham Baptism registers 1795 Mary Daughter of John White of Norham Dean bapt 17th February 1800 William White born 30th June Baptised 17th August 1st/4th (hard to make out) son of Alexander White (?something was here but couldn't decipher) of Ladykirk by his wife 1807 Mary White born January 5th Baptised January 25th 1st daughter of James White Yeoman and Mary his wife late Nicholson both natives of this parish 1811 Grace Ann White born June 7th Baptised June 13th 2nd daughter of James White Yeoman and Mary his wife late Nicholson both natives of this parish

Ok here are the first set of reasults for tonights lookups. Don't worry everyone on here comes first! If I didn't get round to your lookup tonight, don't worry I will get round to yours soon. The goods news is they do have Newcastle parish registers! Once I have answered your original lookup, if you want any further lookups you need to add them to the next lookup topic called 'Northumberland Lookups w/begin 23rd January.

Isobel - Newcastle was in Northumberland at that point. They may still keep the records, but I would think its more likely Newcastle Library or Tyne and Wear Records. I will check when I book myself a machine at the library but there is a chance they won't have Wallsend records.

Sarah I did not realise Wallsend was Newcastle I was going with 1881 census which said Northumberland. Thanks for pointing this out Isobel

William - I doubt they will hold these records as I know only a few bits and pieces have been give to the library to cover the temp closure of the record office, such as parish and census records. I also don't know if the Northumberland record office would have that information to start with. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't hold any SUnderland records and I'm not sure if they hold Newcastle records either.