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hi guys , sorry havent been back previous got an unwell year old ! you have all done so much for me and i am so grateful to you all i have written it all down and will now add uit to my tree once again many thanx kimx

Emily in 1861 Emily Cocks abt 1847 Munden, Hertfordshire, England Pupil Hertford All Saints Hertfordshire Reg

John's birth, I would think..........the 'H' could well be Horace, which would fit nicely with 1881 posted above Name: Jupp, Josiah John H Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1871 District: Stepney County: Greater London London Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 138 Reg

possibly Jane in 1891 Modral, Edwin abt 1874 Hetton le Hole, Durham, England Son Hetton le Hole Durham Modral, Ethel abt 1872 Hetton le Hole, Durham, England Daughter Hetton le Hole Durham Modral, Jane abt 1864 Windleston, Durham, England Daughter Hetton le Hole Durham Modral, Margaret abt 1834 Winlaton, Durham, England Head Hetton le Hole Durham Modral, Margaret A abt 1876 Hetton le Hole, Durham, England Daughter Hetton le Hole Durham wonder what brought her to London? --------------------------------------------------- and 1881 View Record Charles Modral abt 1861 Ryton, Durham, England Son Hetton Hall, Hetton Le Hole, Durham, England View Record Edwin Modral abt 1874 Hetton Le Hole, Durham, England Son Hetton Hall, Hetton Le Hole, Durham, England View Record Ethel T. Modral abt 1872 Hetton Le Hole, Durham, England Daughter Hetton Hall, Hetton Le Hole, Durham, England View Record Jane Modral abt 1865 Windleston, Durham, England Daughter Hetton Hall, Hetton Le Hole, Durham, England View Record Margaret Modral abt 1834 Winlaton, Durham, England Wife Hetton Hall, Hetton Le Hole, Durham, England View Record Margaret A. Modral abt 1876 Hetton Le Hole, Durham, England Daughter Hetton Hall, Hetton Le Hole, Durham, England View Record William Modral abt 1834 Little Benton, Northumberland, England Head Hetton Hall, Hetton Le Hole, Durham, England View Record William C. Modral abt 1869 Middle Redford, Durham, England Son Hetton Hall, Hetton Le Hole, Durham, England

this could be marriage perhaps prefered being called Annie Jupp, Josiah John H Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1900 District: Mile End Old Town County: London Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 763 (click to see others on page) Egalton, Jane Elizabeth A 1900 December Marriages Mile End Old Town London Middlesex View Record Jupp, Josiah John H 1900 December Marriages Mile End Old Town London Middlesex ===View Record Modral, Jane Hannah 1900 December Marriages Mile End Old Town London Middlesex View Record Skeggs, Samuel George 1900 December Marriages Mile End Old Town London Middlesex

1901 think this is John using his middle name a butcher Annie Jupp abt 1871 Durham, England Wife Mile End Old Town London View Record Josiah H Jupp abt 1872 Limehouse, London, England Head Mile End Old Town London View Record Alice M Whiting abt 1871 Bristol, Somerset, England Lodger Mile End Old Town London

here they are in 1891 Melchett House widow living by own means Emily (daughter ) an artist Jupp, Emily abt 1849 Mundon, Hertfordshire, England Head Mountnessing Essex View Record Jupp, Emily abt 1879 Debden, Hampshire, England Daughter Mountnessing Essex View Record Jupp, John H J abt 1872 Limehouse, London, England Son Mountnessing Essex View Record Jupp, Mary A abt 1813 Limehouse, London, England Daughter Mountnessing Essex Smith, Mary E abt 1871 Mundon, Hertfordshire, England Niece Mountnessing Essex View Record Smith, Stanley G abt 1886 Mundon, Hertfordshire, England Nephew Mountnessing Essex Record Pudney, Kate abt 1876 Mountnessing, Essex, England Servant Mountnessing Essex Mary A should be 1873

1881 Forenames differ, but.....................opinions welcome Minnie Cook abt 1821 Hertfordshire, England Mother in Law Bakers Farm, Dibden, Hampshire, England View Record Eliza Dean abt 1817 Wimborne, Dorset, England Servant Bakers Farm, Dibden, Hampshire, England View Record Ellen Jupp abt 1846 Hertfordshire, England Wife Bakers Farm, Dibden, Hampshire, England View Record Ellen Jupp abt 1879 Hampshire, England Daughter Bakers Farm, Dibden, Hampshire, England View Record Henry Jupp abt 1880 Hampshire, England Son Bakers Farm, Dibden, Hampshire, England View Record Henry J. Jupp abt 1844 London, London, Middlesex, England Head Bakers Farm, Dibden, Hampshire, England View Record Horace Jupp abt 1872 London, London, Middlesex, England Son Bakers Farm, Dibden, Hampshire, England View Record Josiah Jupp abt 1801 London, London, Middlesex, England Uncle Bakers Farm, Dibden, Hampshire, England View Record Minnie A. Jupp abt 1873 London, London, Middlesex, England Daughter Bakers Farm, Dibden, Hampshire, England Mother in law's surname is actually COCK on the image Reg

Hi Kimbo Just found this when looking through info on Boer War. Pictures of The Jupp Family, may be of interest to you. Just Google redhill-reigatehistory and enter the surname (also posted this message to Jess, thought she was looking for Jupps) Regards Kim

This next bit is conjecture............... Name: JUPP, Henry Josiah Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 39 Quarter: March Year: 1883 District: New Forest County: Hampshire Wiltshire Volume: 2b Page: 460 Cock, Emily 1870 September Marriages Ware Hertfordshire View Record Jupp, Henry Josiah 1870 September Marriages Ware Hertfordshire Name: Jupp, Henry Josiah Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1843 District: Stepney County: Greater London London Middlesex Volume: 2 Page: 471 1851 census Eliza Cock abt 1849 Little Munden, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Little Munden Hertfordshire View Record Elizabeth Cock abt 1845 Little Munden, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Little Munden Hertfordshire View Record Emily Cock abt 1846 Little Munden, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Little Munden Hertfordshire View Record John Cock abt 1808 Bennington, Hertfordshire, England Head Little Munden Hertfordshire View Record John Cock abt 1850 Little Munden, Hertfordshire, England Son Little Munden Hertfordshire View Record Mary Cock abt 1810 Yardley, Hertfordshire, England Visitor Little Munden Hertfordshire View Record Mary Cock abt 1820 Codicote, Hertfordshire, England Wife Little Munden Hertfordshire View Record Sarah Cock abt 1848 Little Munden, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Little Munden Hertfordshire View Record William Cock abt 1835 Yardley, Hertfordshire, England Son Little Munden Hertfordshire View Record James Kelly abt 1829 Little Munden, Hertfordshire, England Servant Little Munden Hertfordshire Reg

One name i have followed for someone was MITCHELL it varied greatly and yet were all correct Mitchel/ Michell/ Mitchal/ mitchall/ and a one point Mictkell. I think something you do need to consider is this... Back in the early 1900 could your ancestors read or write? They told the ennumerator their name and he spelled it the way he thought correct. If they couldn't read, how did they know if he had written it / spelled it correctly?

Sister Emily's birth.......... Name: JUPP, Emily Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1878 District: New Forest County: Hampshire Wiltshire Volume: 2b Page: 675 Reg

This would appear to be Mary's birth.....the cert will answer all your questions Name: Jupp, Mary Ann Record Type: Births Quarter: December Year: 1872 District: Stepney County: Greater London London Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 500 Stepney Created 1st July 1837. In Middlesex until 1889. Sub-districts : Limehouse; Lower Mile End Old Town; Ratcliff; Shadwell; Shadwell and Ratcliffe; Upper Mile End Old Town. GRO volumes : II (1837-51); 1c (1852-1930). Holy Trinity Minories (from 1926), *******Limehouse*******, Mile End New Town (from 1926), Mile End Old Town (except 1857-1926), Norton Folgate (from 1926), Old Artillery Ground (from 1926), Old Tower Without (from 1926), Ratcliffe, St. Botolph Without Aldgate (from 1926), St. George in the East (from 1926), St. Katharine by the Tower (from 1926), Shadwell, Stepney, Spitalfields (from 1926), Tower of London (from 1926), Wapping, Whitechapel (from 1926). Registers now in Tower Hamlets district. Reg

I have to agree with the consensus and add that my Cheal family are variously found on certificates as Cheale, Cheel, Chell and even a Geel. Life isnt perfect and nor are the transcribers, we have to be real detectives in this hobby.

1891 census.......... Jupp, Emily abt 1849 Mundon, Hertfordshire, England Head Mountnessing Essex View Record Jupp, Emily abt 1879 Debden, Hampshire, England Daughter Mountnessing Essex View Record Jupp, John H J abt 1872 Limehouse, London, England Son Mountnessing Essex View Record Jupp, Mary A abt 1813 Limehouse, London, England Daughter Mountnessing Essex Reg

so... 1891 Jupp, Emily abt 1849 Mundon, Hertfordshire, England Head Mountnessing Essex < widow Jupp, Emily abt 1879 Debden, Hampshire, England Daughter Mountnessing Essex Jupp, John H J abt 1872 Limehouse, London, England Son Mountnessing Essex Jupp, Mary A abt 1813 Limehouse, London, England Daughter Mountnessing Essex < age 18 (there is a stroke on the top of the 1 making it look like a 7) address Melchetts Place

Kimbo I dont think anyone is doubting that YOU have the correct spelling of the name...but it is more than possible that others (including Registrars) have mis-spelled/mistranscribed it over the years. Olde Crone

Opinion is back

Kim looking at the 1901 image (that jeanette found)image it says Jupp.. (transcribed as Supp I agree) have put it out for a consensus of opinion

jess, i have NOT dismissed it as jupp at all just said i had it as supp with regards to your evidence yes majority of you have found mary ann as jupp but jeanette has found her mother on the census as emily supp and on a final note yes i do have george frederick LEGDON birth certificate and also i still have alive LEGDONS in my family and this is how there name is spelt therefore i am 100% sure i have the correct spelling of this one.... i am very grateful to the work you have all done for me