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Can't see them on the census... hmm.... wonder what they're transcribed as... (back after lunch)

Tracy, Even more confusion. Just found this, Family search has a Mary Lear 1860 born to Richard and Mary. This is in Chesterton about 5 miles away.

Oh... about Mary... this'll be why she's a Lewis... Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1873 LEWIS Mary Hannah Alice Newcastle-under-Lyme Newcastle-Under-Lyme NUL/41/010 Births Jun 1873 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- LEWIS Mary Hannah A Newcastle L. 6b 64 Marriages Sep 1873 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- LEAR Richard Ashley Newcastle L 6b 108

Oh!! You'll never guess who Henry's father is..... *drum roll* Thomas Lewis abt 1810 Cheswardine, Shropshire, England Head Madeley Staffordshire (I didn't notice there were two Madeleys to begin with lol) (BTW - have you noticed I get side-tracked easily? lol)

There are definatley two Madeleys, one in each county.

Always said there was something funny about my lot

Now there is a surprise. Flippin Lewises, trust them to stick there nose in to confuse things. Ha ha

Albert 1901, back as Lear... Albert A Lear abt 1876 Madeley, Staffordshire, England Head Audley Staffordshire Anna Lear abt 1879 Stirchley, Shropshire, England Wife Audley Staffordshire in 1891 as Ashley... Lewis, Henry abt 1851 Madeley, Staffordshire, England Head Madeley Staffordshire Lewis, Emily abt 1851 Silverdale, Staffordshire, England Wife Madeley Staffordshire Lewis, Lilly abt 1878 Keele, Staffordshire, England Daughter Madeley Staffordshire Lewis, Lucy abt 1881 Madeley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Madeley Staffordshire Lewis, Leatha abt 1885 Madeley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Madeley Staffordshire Ashley, Albert abt 1876 Madeley, Staffordshire, England Lodger Madeley Staffordshire Isn't that the same Henry as the one with Thomas in 1871? Oh no!!! lol Definitely lots of cousins marrying here! Henry is with Emily's parents in 1881.

On its way Tracy, No I do not have them in later years, not got that far yet.

Milk, one sugar please :) I'll keep trying to find Richard and/or Mary. Do you have Richard and Martha in 1891 and 1901? (I guess he's probably dead by 1901 though?) Guess they're both dead by 1891. I found Albert (under Ashley) as a Lodger and Mary (under Lewis) as a Servant. Albert is Lodging with a family of Lewis'.

How do you take it.

Can I have one too? lol

I need a cup of tea!

I just checked Staffs BMD. Thomas Lewis married Harriet Lear (nee Wycherly) in 1864. Harriet was married previously. Richard Ashley married Mary A Jones in 1859. Richard A Lear married Martha A Lewis in 1873. There is no previous marriage noted on the site. It was a 'Civil Marriage' though. Wonder what that means. Perhaps it's cos he was married before? But Thomas and Harriet married in the church, and the were both married before? I think I'm digging myself into a hole lol If I were you, I'd get the 1873 marriage to find out what's what. Saves too much confusion lol

I have no idea, only found Richards marriages this morning

Aghhh Im with you now. In 71 they are living together as they do not marry until 73, ( just double checked on staffs bmd).

It's 1861. I'm confused too lol The Lears that Germaine found must be related to your Richard (who I still can't find!) In 1861, the Lears and the Lewis' live next to each other. In 1871, they are married to each other! lol Richard married Thomas' daughter, who is with him in 1861, but not 1871. Wonder where she went... Anyways, I'm sure they're all connected some how lol Oh phooey... 1871 puts a downer on that... Thomas Lewis abt 1851 Stoke, Cheshire, England Head Madeley Staffordshire >>Martha Lewis abt 1849 Madeley, Staffordshire, England Wife Madeley Staffordshire Henry Lewis abt 1851 Madeley, Staffordshire, England Boarder Madeley Staffordshire Do you know if she was married before as well?

Tracy what year was your last one for? Am I missing something, wher is Richard? I am confused!!!!!!!!!!

Ahh, yeah, I got him now :) OMG - look what I just found! George Lear abt 1855 Madeley, Staffordshire, England Nephew Madeley Staffordshire Emma Lewis abt 1856 Madeley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Madeley Staffordshire George Lewis abt 1841 Madeley, Staffordshire, England Son Madeley Staffordshire Hannah Lewis abt 1812 Madeley, Staffordshire, England Wife Madeley Staffordshire Henry Lewis abt 1852 Madeley, Staffordshire, England Son Madeley Staffordshire >>> Martha Lewis abt 1849 Madeley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Madeley Staffordshire >>> Thomas Lewis abt 1810 Cheswardine, Shropshire, England Head Madeley Staffordshire Address Middle Madely Cottage - 2 doors down from the Lears! me thinks some inter-marrying going on lol

Germaine, At the mo, I do not know who yours is? Tracy, I have him on the 41. The family is written as Lea. by the 51 they are Lear.