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Hi Jacqueline Thanks for your message and information on the Carless/ Careless family, don't worry about the Bayley's address, I already have them at Church Street, Darlaston. This family is causing me a lot of confusionI I have just also found a Willenhall connection too. I know you have done a lot of work for me finding all these others, but if it is not too much to ask, could you possibly look up the Careless/Carless families in Willenhall as well please, I would be eternally grateful!! Many, many thanks. Ann

Hi Jackie Many thanks for the info it is definitely them, same address as 1861. Thanks for giving up your time I now have a middle name for Henry and an older brother to find, Cheers Karen

Hi Jackie, I wonder if you can help me please. I'm looking for a load of Mills, from Tipton. Jonas Mills, b.1823 Enoch Mills, b.1825 Mary Ann Mills, b.1826 (may be married, so don't worry about her) The rest of the family (barring hubby, Enoch, b.1801 - who I can't find on ANY census) are at home with mother Mary. I'd like to find out if any of them married, and if so to whom. If this isn't enough info, or Tipton is too large to search, don't worry about it :) Thanks for any help you can give.

jan d will have a look tomorrow there are loads of wilsons. jackie.

hi karen have found this one john hollyoak 27 head labourer worchestershire elizabeth ' 37 wife handsworth william ' 12 son errand boy ' ' henry john son 2 ' ' elizabeth daug 1 ' ' 48 booth street handsworth. jackie.

hi karen will have a look.

dorothy joseph careless 31 forgeman bilston selma? ' ' 24 darlaston john ' ' son 9 ' ' emma ' daug 7 ' ' joseph ' son 3 ' ' issac ' son 2 ' ' job ' son 1 or 11mth ' ' 136 haverhampton? lane darlaston. william bayley 35 head gen lock???? darlaston ann ' ' 36 wife ' ' william ' ' 10 scholar ' ' sarah elizabeth daug 8 ' ' ' joseph bayley 6 ' ' ' elizabeth ' 3 ' ' john ' ?mth ' ' mary carless mother in law 61 wednesbury. oh damn the address will gwet back to you regards jackie.

Hi Jackie Sorry I'm not exactly sure where Eliza was born I just know she lived in Birmingham from 1861, there seems to be a connection with the cannock area and Penkridge. I apologise if I have wasted your time Jackie only I'm not exactly sure when B'ham, Staffs changed from or to Warwickshire. OOOerr brain hurting from all this ancestry stuff!! Many thanks Karen

dorothy john careless 48 puddler wednesbury sarah ' ' 45 wife ' ' joseph ' ' unm 20 ' ' drisilla ' ' ' 18 ' ' mary ' ' ' 14 staffordshire john ' ' 12 wednesbury issabella ' 8 ' ' benjamin ' 6 ' ' jemima ' daug 2 ' ' sarah ' ' grandaughter 2 ' ' 125 railway road wednesbury. john careles 23 shingler in ironworks wednesbury mary ' ' 26 wife ' ' sarah ' 1mth ' ' 7 rupill? street wednesbury. jackie. dorothy sorry i have to keep sending in parts i dont know if it is my comp or this site the page times out.

dorothy these are all i can find hope they are some use to you, edward careles 27 miner bilston harriet ' ' 27 wife worchester steven? ' ' 3 son bilston 145 temple street bilston george williams head 26 bilston joseph careles uncle wid blank tray maker salop dawley thomas careles cousin 18 mine agent bilston. 17 temple street bilston richard careless 24 puddler in ironworks wednesbury jemima ' ' 21 ' ' elizabeth ' ' 1 daug ' ' catherine sister no age ' ' 130 kings hill wednesbury. jackie.

brian thomas deakin 33 fire ?? at brickyard born trent vale sarah ' ' 34 wife born trentham james ' ' son 11 employed at brickyard born trent vale isacc ' ' son 9 employed at brickyard born trent vale mary ' ' daug 7 scholar born trent vale thomas ' ' son 4 scholar born trent vale caroline ' ' daug 1 born trent vale. 175 springfields trent vale. jackie.

hi karen where was elizabeth born if it was birmingham i dont have the discs regards jackie.

Hi Jacqueline Thanks for your kind offer. I found my 3xGreat Granddad Joseph Careless/Carless on the 1841 census living at The Green, Darlaston, born Staffs I think around 1786. I was hoping to find him on the 1851 to find out where he was born but unfortunately have just discovered he died in 1844. His son, also Joseph was baptised in 1820 in Bilston and his wife Mary was born in Wednesbury,c 1791. Is there any chance you could look for Careless/Carless, born c 1780-90 in the towns mentioned, please, in the hope it will give me some leads re possible siblings and where to look for baptisms. I would be very grateful. Thanks Ann

Jacqueline, Thank you for your Look Up.Unfortunately i have no further information which will assist finding Joseph Holmes aged about 6yrs on 1851census of staffordshire. Thelma.

Hi Jacqueline Thanks for the kind offer. Could you possibly look for a John Hollyoak Aged about 29 (b Isle of Man) m to Elizabeth (age abour39) son Henry around 3 and Elizabeth Isabella age about 1. The family were in Birmingham in the 1861 census but can't find them any earlier. Hope you can help. Best wishes Karen

hi jackie, many thanks for taking the time to have a look for me, i am sure one day he will show himself. regards claire

hi margaret they are visiting, james holmes? 29 butcher staffs ellen ' ' 23 staffs mary daug 3 brewood jane daug 1 brewood james son 4mth brewood 31 stafford st brewood regards jackie.

hi ickle so sorry he does not want to be found. jackie.

hi ickle will have another look, i can concentrate on the west brom area now on the name index there are loads of them. jackie.

hi margaret this is all i can find, william cotterill lodger mar 56 chemist high offley 1 stafford street brewood. are these any good james cotterill visitor 14 (looks like chemist) kent. octavius cotterill visitor 13 scholar kent 31 stafford street brewood. cant find joseph or charles. regards jackie.