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hi jess finding all this family things on my fathers side got me wondering,can you help on my mother and fathers marriage cert she is may miller.but on her birth cert she is ada may mellor.now this is want for you help me with if you can.there marriage cert goes as follows. 3june 1935 herbert morgan 35 bachlor .hotel porter.ritz cafe llanduduw father malcolm bonner morgan.deceased may miller 27 spinster. cafe ritz father samuel miller at the registra office conway county of caernarvom the reason im asking is im there only child and would like to no if possible if they had any more children,and the different in my mothers name.if you cant help with this one jess its ok as you have done enough for me already,thank you joyce from holland

might be a cert worth seeing - wonder if she has a fathers name mentioned !! Scandle !! Name: Tyler, Harriet Jane Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1887 District: Pancras (1837-1901) County: London Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 134

hi jess sorry to ask but is there any information about the baby she had as its so long ago,i just wondred.joyce

thanks jess i didnt no that you get some suprises in looking for you family,my father didnt tell me anything but i think both his parents died young,as alady sent me apicture of malcom bonner morgan who was in the first surrey riffles and he died 14 nov 1918 age 45,and i think helen died before him.but not sure about that.joyce

I read it that Harriet was the daughter of Helen, Yes. Born harriet Tyler, to Helen Tyler before Helen married Jess *a marriage in 1892 aged 23 would make her born 1868/1869.

hi jess im abit muddled here think its the age,on the marriage cert of malcolm bonner morgan helen tyler she was 23 that was in 1892 and her father was william tyler already dead so was it her who had ababy before she married malcom forgive me for asking,joyce

1891- looks like Helen had a daughter before she married - Harriet- Both are boarders and Helen definately SINGLE (not Married) Tyler, Harriet abt 1887 London City Daughter Bloomsbury St George London Tyler, Helen abt 1868 Manchester, Lancashire Boarder Bloomsbury St George London

hi jess bertie was my dad,and i think you have done it all as thats most of what i got,thank you and have anice weekend.we should be thankful we have people like you who help.joyce from holland

Joyce, Herbert and Winnifred are brother and sister - that you DO know. Helen may be another sister OR a child of their fathers brother. if you send for her B cert you will find out for sure. -it may have been that grandparents were looking after the children of two of their sons not just one

hi jess i have got malcom bonner morgan and helen tylers ,there my grandparents i have the marriage cert 9 jan 1892,sorry if rushed in before you had finished,im not sure if i have it all so im going to print what you have sent me to make sure,and thank you.joyce

and again -1881- Andrew B. Morgan abt 1840 Scotland Head 24 Lombard Street, Allhallows, London, England Jane L. Morgan abt 1875 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter 24 Lombard Street, Allhallows, London, England Jane M. Morgan abt 1867 Scotland Niece 24 Lombard Street, Allhallows, London, England Louisa B. Morgan abt 1838 Thame, Oxfordshire, England Wife 24 Lombard Street, Allhallows, London, England Malcolm B. Morgan abt 1872 Islington, Middlesex, England Son 24 Lombard Street, Allhallows, London, England with a boarder and lodger Helen E. Foulcher abt 1864 Islington, Middlesex, England Servant 24 Lombard Street, Allhallows, London, England Herbert E. A. Marsden abt 1862 Peckham Rye, Surrey, England Boarder 24 Lombard Street,

1891 malcolm at home with HIS parents and siblings Morgan, Andrew B abt 1840 Scotland Head St Edmund The King and Martyr London Morgan, Louisa abt 1839 Thame, Oxfordshire / Oxon Wife St Edmund The King and Martyr London Morgan, Louisa I abt 1875 Islington, London Daughter St Edmund The King and Martyr London Morgan, Malcolm B abt 1872 Islington, London Son St Edmund The King and Martyr London

hi jess just been looking at my fathers birth cert which is her brother.and it reads as follows 28 june 1896 bedford villa, lytlon road east barnet vally ud herbert .boy father.malcolm bonner morgan mother helen morgan formerly tyler insurance broker registered 6 august barnet, counties of middlesex and hertford i no andrew bennett morgan was my great grandfather so is heberts sister or niece,sorry if i seemed confused,joyce

have you got all this census and stuff, or do you want me to carry on? jess

Given that you know Winifreds father middle name, this must surely be the marriage of her parents, although there is one lady ,missing on the page, suppose Helen but....(procede with caution!) Name: Morgan, Malcolm Bonner Record Type: Marriages Quarter: March Year: 1892 District: Holborn County: London Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 821 (click to see others on page) *since found Helen Tyler on a page on her own- diff ref ?? You aready have the cert anyway , so no matter Name: Tyler, Helen Record Type: Marriages Quarter: March Year: 1892 District: Holborn County: London Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 824

and herbert birth Name: Morgan, Herbert Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1896 District: Barnet County: Greater London Hertfordshire Middlesex Volume: 3a Page: 274 (click to see others on page

helens Birth - may of course be a daughter of her fathers brother (her Cousin) not her sister; Name: Morgan, Helen May Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1894 District: Barnet County: Greater London Hertfordshire Middlesex Volume: 3a Page: 250 (click to see others on page)

Joyce i haven't finished yet! hang on there! jess

hi jess that is her with her sister and thats an auntie i never new i had.i cant thank you enough for your help,i have been trying for so long,thank you for your time have anice weekend .joyce from holland

1901 Herbert with mum and dad Maud D Este abt 1881 Highbury, London, England Servant Islington London Bertie Morgan abt 1897 Barnet, Hertfordshire, England Son Islington London Helen Morgan abt 1868 Manchester Wife Islington London Kenneth Morgan abt 1894 Barnet, Hertfordshire, England Son Islington London Malcolm Morgan abt 1872 Islington, London, England Head Islington London HE IS THERE WITH HIS DAD, AND SISTER IS AT GRANS