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thanks zoe off for a visit tomorrow thanks again yvonne

Yvonne come out of Kingston going towards Richmond. Past the new Sainsburys and keep going - its on the right handside before you get to Tiffin Girls. You need to turn in the gate opposite the shut down petrol station. the sign at the front is for the Primary School and "North Kingston Centre". Th ehistory room is in NKC.

hi zoe thanks for directions as i live in hampton i know kingston very well thanks yvonne

Yvonne Its on the Richmond Road, between Kingston and Ham. Tell me where you are and I can tell you how to get around the one way system up to it. The majority of stuff they have is specific to Kingston but its a good place to go for a rummage as they have other bits too and the people there are very helpful Zoe

hi zoe can you tell me where this place is in kingston, i would like to visit if poss as i only live 15 mins away from kingston regards yvonne

Hi Carole Thanks very much for info. Going to Kingston with daughter Wed 5 Jan 2005 shopping. Will try and visit. Chris

Hi Chris, The Local History Room is at the North Kingston Centre, Richmond Road. It is where Tiffin Girls School used to be, and next door to where the current Tiffin Girls School is. Must pay it a visit myself sometime, as its my old school! It has a webpage on the RBK website - http://www.kingston*gov*uk/leisure/museums/local_history_and_archives.htm Carole

Hi Zoe Please could you tell me where in Kingston is the Record centre. Thanks very much. CHris

Zoe, thanks soo much,you've found children i didn't know about, thanks again, Karen

Zoe, Thank you so much for the information you found on 'Plumb'. They are all mine - a few I knew about, a couple I suspected and the rest new!! This is a great birthday present for me. Can you hear the sound of bricks falling as another wall goes down! Once again, many thanks. I only hope you found what you were looking for. Regards Yve

thanks for looking anyway Zoe

Have just been on to the site you mentioned. Fantastic. Can't thank you enough.

Thank you so much, Zoe. All this info is absolutely brilliant! Many, many thanks.

EWELL 1871 census 12 LOndon Road, Kingston William, head, 35, b:Ewell, Pedlar Mary Ann, wife, 30. b: Mitcham Alfred E, son , 6, b: Croydon George, son, 4, b: CRoydon 1881 census Cambridge Road, Kingston William, 45, b - ewell, Marine STpre dealer Mary, 40, b Mitcham Alfred E, 16, b - Croydon. Assistant George, 13, b - Croydon. Sirv Asst Mary Ann, 12, b - Kingston Henry E, 6, b - Kingston BAPTSISM M: Mary Ann F: William, lanourer or General dealer Mary Ann Amelia bap 13/6/1869 at All Saints, Kingston abode Pleasant Lane Ellen Amelia, St peters Norbiton, 28/11/1872 abode Cambridge Road (Private baptism) Henry 4/4/1875, St Peters Norbiton abode - Franklyn Road Eliza Elizabeth St peters Norbiton 2/12/1877 abode Cambridge road Albert Edward bap 2/10/1881 born 16/7/1881 at ST Lukes Kingston.... F: Alfred Edward, bank clerk. M: Elizabeth abode Gibbon Road Alfred William, 29/12/1889 Reginald Clive 23/8/1891 Henry leslie 15/11/1896 BURIALS Ellen Louisa died 30/11/1872 aged 7 mths buried 2/12/1872 Bonner Hill. Plot - consecrated, E 470 abode - Cambridge Row Eliza Elizabeth died 20/1/1880 aged 2 buried 24th Jan 1880 Bonner Hill Cemetery plot- consecrated E 3342 abode Cambridge Row Albert Edward died 21/10/1882 aged 1 buried 25/10/1882 Bonner Hill Cemetery Plot - general, E 3483 abode - The Wanderings

RACKLEY 1881 census 30 Elm Road, General Shop. Kingston (transcribed as Rashley) Sarah, Head, 49, married. born:Cobham, charwoman George, son, 21, b: Bagshot, general labourer William, son, 19, b: Bagshot, coal porter 1891 census Water lane, Kingston George, 30, married, b: Bagshot, Engine Driver Emily,wife, 26, b: Bagshot. Florence, daur, 2, b: Bagshot William, boarder, 28, b: Barkway (????) General Labourer BAPTISMS all below have same details of : M: Matilda F William, Labourer abode: 6 Hudson Road baptised at St Lukes, Kingston Emily Alice bap 5/10/1894 William Arthur bap 5/10/1894 George bap 17/12/1894 Albert Victor bap 4/1/1895 Harriett Bessie bap 7/5/1897 Jessie May bap 3/4/1901** Florence Mary bap 11/7/1902** **mother listed as Matilda Ellen MARRIAGES 25/3/1901 - St Lukes, Kingston George Rackley, 41, widower, Engine Driver. Father: George Rackley - Engine Driver Jane Rose, 35, widower. Father: Jospeh Poulton, labourer both residing Floral (?) Cottages, Thorpe Road BURIALS Albert Victor died: 15/1/1895 aged: 1 month. buried 19/1/1895 Bonner Hill Cemetery, plot = consecrated E349 abode - Hudson Road, Kingston Sarah died 8 Apr 1895 aged 68 buried 11 Apr 1895 Bonner Hill , plot = consecrated, E 4001 abode Canbury park Road Harriett Bessie died 18 Apr 1891 aged 2 buried 23 Apr 1868 Bonner Hill, PL = consecrated E 4069 abode Hudson Road Emily died 1 May 1899 aged 34 buried 6 May 1899 Bonner Hill, PL = consecrated C 2663 abode Albert Road John 2 Dec 1903 aged 2 days buried 5 Dec 1903 Bonner Hill, general E 483 abode 38 Hudson Road notes - no ceremony performed

GATFIELD marriages 25 Dec 1880 at St Johns Kingston Vale James Gatfield, 23, bachelor of Kingston Vale, Gardener. Father: James, labourer Amelia Paviour, 20, spinster of Kingston Vale. Father: Charles Paviour, labourer no baptisms or burials

PLUMB 1861 Censu Mill Place, Kingston Robert Plumb, head, 29, Born Tilbury, journeyman Fishmonger Ann, wife, 30, born Rayleigh, Essex Emily, daur, aged 0, b:Kingston 1891 census 2 Parslow Cottages, Mill Place John Plumb, 24, b:Bayswater, Fishmonger Sabina, wife, 22, b: Netley, Hants. Mabel E, dau, 3, b: Kingston Frederick J, son, age 0, b: Kingston Baptisms Mabel Ellen born: 31/3/1888 bap: 23/9/1888, St Andrews Surbiton M: Sabina F: John Fishmonger Frederick John born: 14/7/1890 bap: 27/7/1890 St Andrews, Surbiton M: Sabina F: John, Fishmonger abode, 2 ???? Cottages, Mill St MARRIAGES 18 Apr 1886 Samuel Stanley Plumb, full age, Fishmonger. F: Robert, Fishmonger Anna Aggett, full age. F: Harry, shoemaker

Paul no luck on the Richmond look ups. The directories dont go back far enough. the only one I found covering richomnd was the 1889 Surrey and there was no Alfred James under the Stonemasons

PENSTON 1851 census Thames Street, Kingston Jabez, Head, 34 born Kingston. Furniture dealer Elizabeth, Wife, 48, born Cricklade Wilts James. Son, 17, born Kingston Martha, Daughter, 14, born Kingston 1861 Census (transcribed as Renslow) Market Place, Kingston Jabez, widower, 64, b.Kingston, Furniture Dealer James, 27, b.Kingston, Shopman Martha, 17, General Servant BAPTISMS Elizabeth born: 20/3/1822 bap 26/5/1822 All Saints, Kingston M: Phoebe F: Jabis, carpenter WIlliam born: 29/12/1829 bap: 28/3/1830 All Saints M: Mary F: Jabel, carpenter Harriet born: 27/7/1832 bap: 23/9/1832 All Saints M: Mary F: James, carpenter James born: 13/3/1834 bap: 4/4/1834 All Saints M: Mary F: Jabez Carpenter Sarah born:16/11/1835 bap: 9/12/1835 All Saints M: Mary F: Jabez, carpenter Martha born: 9/2/1837 bap: 8/3/1837 All Saints M: Mary F: Jabez, carpenter BURIALS date of burial: 21 Apr 1853 Elizabeth aged 55 All saints Church NB this is the main church in centre of Kingston and because of the danger all teh stones were removed to the sides about ten years ago so none of them remain on the original plots. Jabez date of death: 01 Jan 1874. agd 78 address - london Street Bonner hill Cemetry plot: C Consecrated 383 James date of death 12 Feb 1863 aged 29 Bonner Hill Cemetry, plot: C Consecrated 383 I also have this in my notes: "in same grave" but stupidly havent noted which "same grave" this is William date of death 28 March 1889 aged 61 address University Hospital, Gower Street (think this is the one in London) if you go to the Life Cycles page there's also a Hannah and Samuel Penston buried at Bonner hill although they are in a general plot (indicating not Church of England) I was up at Bonner Hill and had a look for the stones but the general plot where they are is mostly sunken and I couldnt see them at all. http://localhistory.kingston.ac.uk/db_forms/LocalHistoryForm.asp

I'm back from my trip to see family and will be adding the results of look-ups here as and when work allows!!! Zoe