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hello Maureen, this could be a marriage for John but now we have the initial P added to his name, I think I need to see if I can find a birth for this man with extra P. then I can rule it out for sure. Thank you again for your help. Moira

Thank you Pam and Maureen, yes the Berr one is the family but John Sidney O. Is not on the list, I just cannot find him. Moira

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Have you ruled out this possible marriage? Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%) Kerr John Sydney O P Ecclesall B. 9c 420 Maureen

Is this his family in 1891? Walter A Berr [Walter A Kerr] Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Son Father's Name: Walter Mother's Name: Emily Gender: Male Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Sheffield Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: Sheffield Park ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Emily Berr 44 Maud G Berr 15 Walter Berr 54 Walter A Berr 11 Ema Thickett 2

Thanks Kaz, this man is driving me crazy, I will not be beaten. again thank you Moira

Hi Moira Cant come up with anything apart from his birth ref. Sorry

Hi Kaz, yes this is the family but it is what happened to JOHN SIDNEY KERR after this date, I know he did not die but I cannot find him Moira

Hi there is this him on the 1881? Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Walter KERR Hd M Male 44 Tickhill, York, England Cook & Confectioner Emily KERR Wife M Female 34 Sheffield, York, England Emma THICKET Step Daut U Female 18 Sheffield, York, England Sewing Machine Worker John S. O. KERR Son Male 7 Sheffield, York, England Scholar Maud G. KERR Daugt Female 5 Sheffield, York, England Scholar Walter A. KERR Son Male 1 Sheffield, York, England John COCKAYNE Boarder U Male 40 Sheffield, York, England Spring Knife Cutler

I am trying to find John Sidney O. Kerr b.3 quarter 1873 to Walter and Emily, Sheffield Yorkshire. I have him on the 1881 census and a possible 1901 in Wakefield prison (not checked out yet) I cannot find him anywhere on the 1891 or anything about him after these dates.