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Karen, I haven't had time to do much searching, but your comment about the number of children........................... ............... my husband's gg grandmother had 20 children in 28 years. All singles. All survived .................although there is a family story that number 20 died and the parents had another baby to bring the number back to 20 lliving! I can't find any proof of that! So yes, it is possibly to have 17 children in 28 years. Poor woman!

Looking at all those children I think there is more than 1 family. Although it was common to have lots of kids this would make 16 over 28 years, was this possible? I have identified 7 of them on the list and 2 earlier ones which I had. If this is 1 family, all I can say is poor woman!

1851 census Mary Ann Larondie Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Francis Gender: Female Where born: Treshford, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Woolwich Ecclesiastical parish: Greenwich Town: Woolwich County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: Woolwich Dockyard ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 63 Household Members: Name Age Francis Larondie 24 Mary Ann Larondie 22 Val

Hopefully some of your family Births Mar 1885 DELANY Frank William Farnham 2a 121 DELANY Rose Caroline Farnham 2a 121 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1886 Delany Coloumb Farnham 2b 109 down as Fareham on FreeBMD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Births Dec 1888 DELANY Annie Amy Farnham 2a 93 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1890 Delany Thomas Farnham 2a 106 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1891 Delaney Norah Kathleen Farnham 2a 114 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1893 Delany Kathleen Laura Farnham 2a 109 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1894 Delaney Charles Frederick Farnham 2a 114 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1896 Delaney Ada Florence Farnham 2a 121 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1899 Delaney Jessie Agnes Farnham 2a 118 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1901 DELANEY Margaret Agnes Farnham 2a 126 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1906 Delaney Muriel Farnham 2a 140 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1907 DELANEY Thomas Gerald Farnham 2a 119 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1908 Delaney Dennis Patrick Farnham 2a 116 Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1912 Delaney Harry Mother's maiden name WEBSTER Farnham 2a 283 This looks as if there was another Delaney family around Val

Coloumb Jnr's birth ref Births Sep 1886 Delany Coloumb Farnham 2b 109 Val

Thanks for the help. I might be able to move on now after a year looking. Your very quick Val didnt expect anything so soon. I appreciate everything Sylvia. Kaz

Do you mind if I re-do your heading? For clarity only!! Need To Get Through The Brick Wall Hello all, I am having trouble finding a very wierd family maybe someone could help. In various census I find they have various name spellings, this is making it very difficult. 1) Francis Larouche born British subject France b1827 Francis Larouche lived in Greenwich. Francis Larondie same details as both 2) Elizabeth Alice Larondie b1857 London Alice in the 1891 census Elchart in the 1881 census 3) Coloumb Delaney born Ireland 1853- Elizabeth and Coloumb were married in 1880 in westminster in 1901 3 Ivy Cottages Colonel Delaney in 1891 census living in Aldershot 1 Upton Cottages Calaub Delany in 1881 census living in Berwick 31 Little Putney St According to the marriage certificate Coloumbs father was Daniel (deceased at this time) Francis Coloumb and Elizabeth were all Tailors Up to now I have found 7 children Ada being my GGgrandmother. Possibly being the 2nd youngest. The eldest child Alice - 1 census says Alice born Ireland 1880 (couple of weeks after the wedding) 1 census says born london. They have a son named Colonel but this also could be a Colm Coloumb or another varient | have found for the Father. I cannot find any of these before 1871. And alot is conflicting info I do have a few certs but finding others is very difficult I hope I havnt bombarded too much info but just wondered if anyone could find any of these before 1871. Francis Coloumb or Elizabeth. Kaz (Sylvia)

Possible children for Mary Ann Hillier and Francis Larondie Births Dec 1851 LARCOMBE Ann Helliar Yeovil 10 544 Births Mar 1854 Larcombe Francis Williton 5c 394 Val

1861 census Alice Larouche [Alice Larondie] Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Frank Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Female Where born: London, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Clewer Ecclesiastical parish: Windsor Holy Trinity Town: Windsor County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Windsor Sub-registration district: Windsor ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 94 Household Members: Name Age Alice Larouche 3 born London Frank Larouche 33 Tailor born France Frank Larouche 6 born Somerset Mary A Larouche 31 born Somerset Sarah Smith 16 Servant Francis' marriage Marriages Mar 1850 Hillier Mary Ann Greenwich 5 263 Larondie Francis Greenwich 5 263 Val

Hello all, I am having trouble finding a very wierd family maybe someone could help. In various census I find they have various name spellings, this is making it very difficult. 1) Francis Larouche born British subject France b1827 Francis Larouche lived in Greenwich. Francis Larondie same details as both 2) Elizabeth Alice Larondie b1857 London Alice in the 1891 census Elchart in the 1881 census 3) Coloumb Delaney born Ireland 1853- Elizabeth and Coloumb were married in 1880 in westminster in 1901 3 Ivy Cottages Colonel Delaney in 1891 census living in Aldershot 1 Upton Cottages Calaub Delany in 1881 census living in Berwick 31 Little Putney St According to the marriage certificate Coloumbs father was Daniel (deceased at this time) Francis Coloumb and Elizabeth were all Tailors Up to now I have found 7 children Ada being my GGgrandmother. Possibly being the 2nd youngest. The eldest child Alice - 1 census says Alice born Ireland 1880 (couple of weeks after the wedding) 1 census says born london. They have a son named Colonel but this also could be a Colm Coloumb or another varient | have found for the Father. I cannot find any of these before 1871. And alot is conflicting info I do have a few certs but finding others is very difficult I hope I havnt bombarded too much info but just wondered if anyone could find any of these before 1871. Francis Coloumb or Elizabeth. Kaz