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I am trying tofind more infor on my Dad's Great uncle. He was born Harry Tomkins Sept quarter 1880 in Portsea, Hampshire. on the 1881 census he was living with the family at 64 Toronto Road, Portsea. By 1884 the family had moved to Nottingham then by 1892 to Birminham. Sometime between 1897 to 1898 the family moved to Kingston-Upon-Thames. I have found a reference for a Harry marring a Mary Elizabeth Shackson. Now I lose the trail after this. I can not find them on the 1901 census. I have been told by another relative that he was in the 3rd battalion of the coldstream Guards but i do not know how or if I can verify this. Can anyone help???

Oh dear :) Is this him? Name: Harry Tompkins Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Prisoner Gender: Male Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Wandsworth Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation:Bricklayers Labourer Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: Wandsworth ED, institution, or vessel: His Majestys Chris

Oh dear. Well, perhaps you should see if you can find Mary the wife on her own now or with relatives.

If that one in Wandsworth isnt him and he was in the Army then he may well have been away in the Boar war in 1901,have you checked for any army records on the National Archives site

What do you think of this one? She's on her own. 1901 Eliza Mary Tomkins Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Devonport, Devon, England Civil parish: Portsmouth Ecclesiastical parish: Portsea St Mary County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Portsmouth Sub-registration district: Kingston and East Southsea Household Members: Name Age Eliza Mary Tomkins 25

I think this is her. Elizabeth Tomkins Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Sarah A Gender: Female Where born: Kingston On Thames, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Kingston On Thames Ecclesiastical parish: Norbiton St Peter Town: Kingston On Thames County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Kingston Sub-registration district: Kingston ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 191 Household Members: Name Age Henry Jackson 19 Elizabeth Tomkins 20 Richard Wilson 10 Sarah A Wilson 45 Sidney Wilson 14 (Henry Jackson should be Henry Shackson). Mother's remarriage: Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shackson Sarah Ann Kingston 2a 542a Wilson Samuel Kingston 2a 542a Angela

Mary Elizabeth Tomkins' (Shackson's) birth: Births Jun 1881 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SHACKSON Mary Elizabeth Kingston 2a 309 Dad's death: Deaths Jun 1884 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shackson William 39 Kingston 2a 188

The Shackson family in 1881: Infant Shackson Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Anne Gender: Female Where born: Kingston, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Kingston On Thames County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Franklin Road 1 Hillyers Cottags Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Kingston Sub-registration district: Kingston ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Anne Shackson 27 Anne Shackson 4 Infant Shackson William Shackson 34 William Shackson 1 UPDATE I've just noticed that the address is Franklin Rd. in 1901 too!

And on the Black Sheep Index.... http://www.lightage.demon(.)co.uk/ Harry Tomkins Age 19 Address Kingston on Thames Date 1899 The evidence seems to be stacking up against him lol! Chris

Mary Elizabeth (Lizzie ) & family in 1891 - still Franklin Rd: Sidney Wilson Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Son Father's Name: Samuel Mother's Name: Anne Gender: Male Where born: Kingston, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Kingston Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Kingston County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Kingston Sub-registration district: Kingston ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Samuel Bentham 49 Anne Wilson 38 Harry Wilson 7 Lizzie Wilson 9 Richard Wilson 2 Samuel Wilson 36 Sidney Wilson 6

Unfortunately, it does look like him in prison, doesn't it? Angela