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I have William Irwin born 1851 in Ireland he married Jane McCombs born 1866 born Market Hall, Armagh, Ireland - I believe they married in County Durham. So when did they come over here. I have William in 1881 living with his sister - could anybody check 1871 census for me - I know his Father was William also, but no idea of his Mother's name or if they also came over to England. Long shot and tough but fingers crossed.

There is a William H Irwin born Ireland aged 22 unmarried in Canterbury Barracks, a private with the 19th Hussars. Any good?

I've got nothing jumping out at me born around that time

Janice, honestly I have no idea - all I have is what I have given you, told you it was tough - thinking about going to Ireland but will that do any good?

Can you find the marriage? The marriage cert would give more clues.

I have the marriage certificate it helps not - just that his Father was deceased by his marriage date.

How do you know Jane is Irish? Where are they in 1891 and 1901?

They married in England Marriages Dec 1886 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IRWIN William Gateshead 10a 1055 McCombs Jane Gateshead 10a 1055 PRYDE Alexander Gateshead 10a 1055 Shotton Hannah Gateshead 10a 1055

1891 Wm Irwin Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Felling, Durham, England Civil Parish: Heworth Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Felling County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Gateshead Sub-registration district: Heworth ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Jane Irwin 25 .... Felling Mary Ann Irwin 2 William Irwin 38 Wm Irwin 3

By 1901 William was dead, she was living in Railway Row, Heworth-do not know about earlier census.

Is this them in 1891? Jane is given as born in Durham though. William Irwin Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Heworth Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Felling County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Gateshead Sub-registration district: Heworth Jane Irwin 25 Mary Ann Irwin 2 William Irwin 38 Wm Irwin 3

That certainly looks like them.

Cannot even send for his birth cert. as he weas born in Ireland - or can I?