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Just one more -- here, I think, is Ada in 1881:
Name: Ada Bearden
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Acton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: 18 York Rd
Occupation: Gen Serv
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Acton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Ada Bearden 19
David Gunn 37
Emily D. Gunn 30
Someone didn't know how to spell her name.
Marriages Sep 1891 ??
Cummins Edwin Royle Islington 1b 574
> Fordham Alfred Alexander Islington 1b 574
> Harris Ada Beatrice Islington 1b 574
Houghton Emily Louisa Islington 1b 574
Where did you guys come up with her being the daughter of Herbert Ponton??
editing Sept 2010
An interesting Elizabeth Brereton in 1861:
Name: Elizabeth Brereton
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Emily Brereton
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Hammersmith
Registration district: Kensington
Emily Brereton 42
Elizabeth Brereton 22
Robert Brereton 17
Sarah Haynes 48
Emily Haynes 24
Harry Harris 24 - lodger
Elizabeth Harris 17 - wife
Possibly Ada Beatrice's mother died when AB was an infant:
Deaths Dec 1863
Brereton Elizabeth Pancras 1b 24
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Hi Barbara, got your message -- just updating some info here for you.
The reason I couldn't find that Herbert Ponton in 1871 is this:
Name: Herbert Ponton
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 29
District: Canterbury
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 386
He had died. There's no record of him marrying, so I wonder whether Ada Beatrice was registered under mother's name at birth.
Using the info Keith provided, here we go:
Name: Ada Beatrice Brereton
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Clerkenwell
County: Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 556
I think that will be her.
I'd hoped to find her marriage to Harris under that name, but no such luck. FreeBMD shows no Brereton - Harris marriage, and no relevant Ponton - Harris marriage.
Here they are in 1891, as I'm sure you two have seen:
Name: Ada Harris
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Where born: Clerkenwell, London, England
Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Highbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Ada Harris 23
Florence Harris 4
Frederick Harris 5
Herbert Harris 3
This is quite likely Florence A. Harris:
Name: Alice Florence Harris
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 280
which would get you her father's name.
And I'd bet on this being Herbert C. Harris:
Name: Herbert Charles H Harris
Year of Registration: 1887
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 337
Might be a step on your way!
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Hello, Barbara and Keith!
Does either of you know about your Pontons behind Herbert Sydney? And might he be this one? --
Name: Herbert Ponton
Year of Registration: 1839
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Canterbury
County: Kent
Volume: 5
Page: 62
I don't see that one in 1871, but in 1861:
Name: Herbert Ponton
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Canterbury, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Hoxton New Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 119
Household Members:
Name Age
William H Fanny 5
Charlotte Ponton 31
Herbert Ponton 22
William Ponton 30
My Mary Ponton married in Canterbury and the censuses report her as born in Canterbury 1825-27. But I can't figure out for sure where she came from.
There's a matching Mary in your Herbert's household in 1841 (if that's your Herbert):
Name: George Ponton
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England
Civil Parish: St Margaret
Hundred: Canterbury City and Borough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Canterbury
Sub-registration district: Canterbury
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Ponton 8
Eliza Ponton 9
Ellen Ponton 5
George Ponton 36
Herbert Ponton 2
Mary Ponton 15
William Ponton 11
-- but I think she's the *other* Mary Ponton.
A distant cousin of mine told me this:
"I had a look at the Christening Index and found that there are in fact two Mary Pontons on it - one baptised 19 December 1824, daughter of William & Elizabeth and the other baptised 18 September 1825, daughter of George & Elizabeth. I assume they are connected - possibly cousins."
Your Herbert's father George (if I have them right) was born in Kent, apparently. So we could be related.
The daughter of one of my gr-grmother's sisters married a Fordham, too. ;) Ellen (Nellie) Emily Lane married James Fordham, Romford 1891.
Fire wide, and you might hit a cousin!
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Dear Barbara I have some information on Ada Beatrice Fordham. She was the daughter of Elizabeth Ponton nee Brereton and Herbert Sydney Ponton Born about 1864, I am seeking her birth Certificate. She married a man named Harris, before she married my grandfather in 1891. I am also seeking her marriage certificate to Harris. Please contact me
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Ada Beatrice Fordham and Alfred A Fordham
Ada formerly Ada Beatrice Ponton/
Harris
Children Caroline, Mabel,Florence, Frederick ,Herbert
1885 onwards London Middlesex area
Barbara
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Information on Ada Beatrice (formerly Ada Beatrice Ponton)
Children Caroline, Mabel, Florence, Frederick and Herbert
Barbara
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