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I didn't realise that I would get so many offers of help. In fact, I was inundated with well over 20 offers.

Thank you, and I apoligise for not sending out cert to all who offered. Time just got the better of me.

Deb:)

Hi all,

Thanks everyone for giving me so much of your time. I'm fairly satisfied that we're as close to solving this problem as we'll ever be.

Just a quick run-down.

First letter B. Most of you leant towards a B rather than my first impression of P.

Second letter R.

Third either I or O.

Forth and fifth DG.

And final letter E.


So that gives us either Bridge or Brodge.

Once again, thank you so much.



Deb:)

Hi Barry,

Good morning. Just woken up to find you've been hard at work.

I have looked at the marriage you mention some time ago. There was also a marriage for Bingle/Pringle. St Bees.

The problem I face is that the writing on cert isn't original script. Whoever traced over the name only formed the general shape of the name and not the actual letters. So, Burridge could be right, although it looks more like Bridge. The length of the name only indicates only six letters.

Here's the source for the 1851. They've been mis-transcribed.

Class: HO107; Piece: 2177; Folio: 144; Page: 36; GSU roll: 87172-87174.



Deb:)

This is a good one isn't it?

At the risk of disagreeing with previous suggestions ... might the first letter be B? I'm looking at the capital letters P and R and thinking that if the very bottom loop of the B has been cut off ... Then it might be Bro[dg][er] ??

Not totally happy about the d in the middle though. Could it be a mangled o and the last letter(s) a mangled k? That might be Brook. ??

Jill

Sorry all. I've got to hit the sack now. My eyes are falling out of my head from looking at this bl**dy thing.

Hope someone's able to give her a name. Will check back in the morning.


Night night

Deb:)

Hi Deb

I've pm'd you

Jill

I've already thought of that but the only other child was Frances, born 1834.....just my luck.


Deb:)

I think the only way is to try and get one of the other childrens birth certs and see if its clearer-sorry

I've PMd you again

Has anyone noticed that there are two distinctively different lower-case r's.

There is the stylised r in Sharp and then look at the small r in Robert.

Take a second look at what I believed to be a stylised r following first letter P. Could it be an i and lazy r ?


Deb:)

You wont be disappointed.

I've not struggled like this with reading a certificate

have pm'd you-looking forward to a challenge!

Sorry Sue. Spelling mistake on my part. It's definately Circus.

If it is ss, what is the long descending line before the e ?

It's baffling!



In 41, they have two children, Frances and William. Following through, Mary dies and Robert is a widower in 51. Birthplace Cumberland.



Deb:)

Im sure where you say dg is old fashioned ss

By the way I read the address as Circus Street.

I have I think found them in the 1841 census

Sue

Originally sent at 8:46 just resent

Hi Rachel. PM hasn't come through.


Deb:)

I think P**o**e

I've looked at the lower-case s in Cuicus (address) and registrar. I can't see a double s in her name.

The dg from Prodge is interesting though. The d isn't formed as strongly as the d's in Podd, but it could be. The g has no loop, but again it's possible.


Deb:)

Do we agree ?

P**osse*

I've PMed you'd

Agree with P. Take a look at how the other letters on cert are formed. The P in Podd is the same. The stylised r in Sharp and Mary is different though. It ends on the decending line and rises to meet the following letter in Sharp and Mary. In maiden name it ends on the asending line and doesn't meet the following letter.


Deb:)