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Gillian
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5 Nov 2007 10:42 |
Hi Steph - hope you had a good weekend.
Well, it gets even more intreaging. I guess, I need to find out more about their children & see if I can communiate with someone to see IF this is MY Ernest Mann. Will let you know. Thanks Steph Gill
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2 Nov 2007 19:57 |
Hi Gill,
Think this looks like Betty's birth.
Dec Qtr 1936 Betty Sketchley mmn Bason Hinckley, vol 7a, page 94
So she was almost 22 when she married. It could still be your Ernest.
Also might be why he was out of favour with the children from his first marriage.
Steph
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Gillian
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2 Nov 2007 10:21 |
Thanks Steph Hinckley IS in Leicestershire. (although Ernest was born & died in Leicester itself). If we found Betty's birth, it would confirm her age & likelihood of whether the marriage to MY ernest is likely. ie if she is 17 and he is 58 - its not likely to be my Ernest, so I wont buy a cert! Apart from a marriage cert to confirm this is the right marriage- the only other way is to make contact with their children. I will see if I can find out more. Thanks again. Gill
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Steph
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1 Nov 2007 21:05 |
Hi Gill,
Have been through the registers from 1923 up to when Ernest died and only 2 marriages were recorded for and Ernest T Mann in that time. I discarded the first as it was in Edmonton, so here is the only other one
Sept Qtr 1958 Ernest T Mann to Betty Sketchley Hinckley, vol 3a page 1546
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Gillian
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1 Nov 2007 16:32 |
Hi Steph
Thanks for all your "digging" today - you have come up with some really great info.
Ernest was my mums (half) brother, so I am obviously particularly interested in finding out as much about him, his dad and his decendents.
More questions for me to solve..... Did he re-marry? When? to whom? has he had other children???????
The story continues - I love a good story.
Have a nice evening Gill x
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1 Nov 2007 16:10 |
Ok found it.
June qtr 1964 Ernest T Mann aged 63 Leicester, vol 3a page 557
Steph
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1 Nov 2007 15:58 |
Hi Gill,
This looks like Mays death details
Sept Qtr 1974 May Mann dob 15/05/1899 Leicester C. vol 6 page 1668
So she never remarried. I am still looking for Ernest.
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Gillian
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1 Nov 2007 12:42 |
Hi
Have just found out that Ernest Mann & May Hickling got divorced - dont know when, but given that they had a child together in 1930 - I guess that the divorce was after that - can anyone find if they married again and to whom? I am particularly interested in what happened to Ernest as I believe that he was not in favour by his children who had nothing to do with him after the divorce. Did he re-marry? When? to whom? has he had other children?
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Gillian
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30 Oct 2007 09:38 |
Thanks anyway Lindsay, without your help, I wouldnt have found half of the info that I now have.
Many thanks again Kind regards Gill
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***Lindsay***
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29 Oct 2007 17:23 |
Sorry Gill
Can't find deaths. Have looked on overseas military births for Mary Bastock but couldn't find anything
Lindsay
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Gillian
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29 Oct 2007 12:16 |
Lindsay - cant believe that you have found out so much - thank you!!!! May Hickling born 1900c Leicester - marrried Ernest Mann in 1922 -Leicester. Any idea of May Hicklings date of death?? and or Ernest????
ps I notice that the census reveal that either Mary and / or John Hickling were India/ East Indies national subject - is there anywhere that I can be looking for more info?? Thanks again-so much regards Gill
Gill
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***Lindsay***
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27 Oct 2007 07:30 |
1841 census WIDDOWSON, Thos M 65 Leicestershire WIDDOWSON, Ann F 65 Leicestershire WIDDOWSON, Ann F 30 Leicestershire WIDDOWSON, Rubin M 25 Leicestershire HICKLING, Mary F 25 Leicestershire HICKLING, Joseph M 5 Leicestershire HICKLING, Mary F 3 Leicestershire HICKLING, Ellen F 1 Leicestershire RG number:HO107 Piece:593 Book/Folio:16/16 Page:25 Registration District: Barrow Upon Soar Sub District: Barrow Upon Soar EnumerationDistrict: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Sileby Municipal Borough: Address: Barrow End, Sileby County: Leicestershire
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***Lindsay***
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27 Oct 2007 07:26 |
1851 Joseph Hickling Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Sileby, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Sileby County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Registration district: Barrow Upon Soar Sub-registration district: Barrow Household schedule number: 78 Household Members: Name Age Reuben Widdowson 35 Head Unmarried Framework Knitter Ann Widdowson 41 Sister Unmarried Framework Knitter Mary Hickling 37 Sister married Framework Knitter Joseph Hickling 15 Nephew Framework Knitter Mary Hickling 13 Neice Framework Knitter
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***Lindsay***
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27 Oct 2007 07:15 |
1871 census
Joseph Hickling 36 Framework Knitter Silby Leic. Sarah Wife 31 Household work Barrow Rueben Hickling 13 John Hickling 10 George Hickling 8 Edward Hickling 6 Ellen Hickling 3 Thomas Hickling 3 Mary A Hickling 10 months Name Relationship to Head of H'hold Condition Sex Age Profession/Occupation Disability Where Born Original census image
1861 HIKLEN, Joseph Head Married M 24 F W Knitter Royal Shirts Sileby Leicestershire VIEW HIKLEN, Sarah Wife Married F 21 Barrow Leicestershire VIEW HIKLEN, Ruben Son M 3 Scholar Barrow Leicestershire HIKLEN, John Son M 0 (9months) Barrow Leicestershire
RG number:RG09 Piece:2279 Folio:93 Page:14 Registration District: Barrow-Upon-Soar Sub District: 1 Barrow-Upon-Soar EnumerationDistrict: 7 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Sileby Municipal Borough: Address: King Street, Sileby County: Leicestershire
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***Lindsay***
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27 Oct 2007 07:02 |
Think this is him
Births Sep 1860
HICKLING John Edward Barrow 7a 134
?Marriage of John BASTOCK Mary Leicester.7a 406 3 1882 HICKLING John Leicester.7a 406 3 1882
1891 census HICKLING, John Edward Head Married M 30 Box Cutter Barrow Leicestershire HICKLING, Mary Wife Married F 28 India British Subject
RG number:RG12 Piece:2536 Folio:94 Page:22 Registration District:Leicester Sub District:West Leicester EnumerationDistrict:5 Ecclesiastical Parish:Holy Trinity Civil Parish:Leicester Municipal Borough:Leicester Address: 17, Duke Street, Leicester County: Leicestershire 1881 census HICKLING, Joseph Head Married M 46 Porter Sileby Leicestershire HICKLING, Sarah Wife Married F 42 Housewife Barrow Leicestershire HICKLING, John Son Single M 20 Boxmaker (Wood) Barrow Leicestershire HICKLING, George Son Single M 18 Labourer Sileby Leicestershire HICKLING, Edward Son Single M 16 Labourer Sileby Leicestershire HICKLING, Thomas Son Single M 13 Scholar Barrow Leicestershire HICKLING, Ellen Daughter Single F 13 Scholar Barrow Leicestershire HICKLING, Mary Daughter Single F 10 Scholar Sileby Leicestershire HICKLING, Joseph Son Single M 8 Scholar Leicester Leicestershire HICKLING, Bertha Daughter Single F 7 Scholar Leicester Leicestershire MIDDLETON, William Visitor Married M 73 Annuitant Barrow Leicestershire MIDDLETON, Ann Visitor Married F 70 Bailey Grove Leicestershire RG number: RG11 Piece:3159 Folio:53 Page:16 Registration District:Leicester Sub District:East Leicester EnumerationDistrict: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish:Leicester St Margaret Municipal Borough: Address: 5 Thomas St, Leicester St Margaret County: Leicestershire
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Gillian
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22 Oct 2007 11:59 |
Many Thanks Lindsay, really appreciate your help. any ideas on John Hickling.born 1861c? are you able to find hiom in any earlier census at all? thanks again kind regards Gill
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***Lindsay***
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19 Oct 2007 16:04 |
Name: May Hickling Year of Registration: 1899 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun DISTRICT: Leicester (1837-1974) County: Leicestershire Volume: 7a
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***Lindsay***
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19 Oct 2007 16:03 |
Could this be her? Name: May Hickling Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1899 Relation: Daughter Father's name: John E Mother's name: Mary A Gender: Female Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Leicester Formerly St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: Leicester St Luke County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England
Registration district: Leicester Sub-registration district: North West Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 56 Household schedule number: 61 Household Members: Name Age Beatrice Hickling 3 George Hickling 6 John E Hickling 41 Mary A Hickling 40 May Hickling 2 Reuben Hickling 9
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Gillian
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19 Oct 2007 15:42 |
May Hickling born 1900c Leicester - marrried Ernest Mann in 1922 -Leicester. Can anyone find May in the 1901 census please?
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