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Jane Evelyn Winterton born 1887 Scotland, died before 1891. There is an old family story that she "drowned in Ireland". Does anyone have access to Irish death records? Her father was in the British Army - is there any registry of Overseas Army deaths? No record of the death in England or Scotland.
Thank you
xxxx Mick

Not listed in any of the following on Findmypast

GRO ARMY DEATH INDICES (1881 to 1955) 1886 - 1890 WILLIAMS to WRINGE

GRO CONSULAR DEATH INDICES (1849 to 1965) 1886 - 1890 WINDASS to WRIGHT

GRO MARINE DEATHS INDICES (1846 to 1902) 1887 - 1887 WILSEN to WOO

GRO MARINE DEATHS INDICES (1846 to 1902) 1888 - 1888 WILSON to WOO

GRO MARINE DEATHS INDICES (1846 to 1902) 1889 - 1889 WILLIAMS to WONG

GRO MARINE DEATHS INDICES (1846 to 1902) 1890 - 1890 WINTER to WOODHOUSE

GRO ARMY DEATH INDICES (1881 to 1955) 1891 - 1895 WILLIAMS to WRIGHT

GRO CONSULAR DEATH INDICES (1849 to 1965) 1891 - 1895 WILSON to WOODFORD

GRO MARINE DEATHS INDICES (1846 to 1902) 1891 - 1891 WILSON to WOODLAND

Thanks for that Glitter - I am beginning to think they just gave this baby away!
xxxx Mick

Or committed her to an institution. It is possible she was born physically or mentallly retarded, as her mother later died of tertiary syphilis!

Does anyone know how I could start to look for a child who may have been institutionalized in the late 19th C? thanks xxxx Mick

Nudge

Hi Mick,

How are you this fine hot morning?

I've just checked the overseas deaths records that glitter posted and your Jane doesn't appear.

So, you've never found her on census records?


Deb:)

Hi Deb

no - never on any census, cant find a death in England or Scotland - a real mystery.

Hot? - its about 12 degrees here - lol

XXX

Mick

Ooohhh.................It's 32 at the moment and climbing...............phew!!!

What were her parent's names?


Deb:)

Charles George Winterton born 1859 Cambridge, (died 1922) mother Mary Jane Williamson born 1864 Scalloway Shetlands Scotland.(died london 1897)

I've just done a blanket search of patient/institution under name Winterton for England and Scotland............nothing!

It's very strange that her death wasn't registered. Her father was military, so by rights if she drowned outside her birth country, she should be on army deaths overseas and consulate deaths also.

So, no death on scotlandspeople ?




Deb:)

No, people have checked Scots ppl for me - say no record there. He was stationed in Jamaica and Malta, but that should show up on overseas deaths I guess. Thanks Mick

Nudge

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nudge

nudge (I live in hope!)

A mystery that has plagued me for 40 years finally solved!
and you know what? - Old family stories are sometimes true!

Amongst new records on Ancestry today, I found her death\
Cork, Ireland, Jul Quarter 1887 Vol 5 Page 47 101594.

Now I just have to work out what the hell they were
doing in Ireland!

Woooo hoooo!


xxxxxx mick

I'm a bit puzzled as to why you should think drowning in the UK might qualify as an "overseas death", but anyways, one can purchase certs (or cheaper still, the uncertified images of the rego) via:
http://www.groireland.ie/

Hi Mick, just googled www.interment.net clicked into Ireland Cemetery Records, then into Cork, only Cemetery in Cork recorded is The British Military Graveyard., clicked into it and scrolled down to W,s and saw Jane Evelyn Winterton died 13th June 1887, age 2 months.Father C.G.Winterton, 4th (Queens own Dragoon,s) Hussars, Paymaster Sgt. F. Dobbin Abode, Ballincollig.
There is an e-mail address of the person that transcribed the Deaths, if you e-mail her, she may tell you if there is a headstone on the babys grave.There is also an address for the people that are looking after the Cemetery and that have a key to the Cemerety.
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We only have 1901 and 1911 Census here but might be of interest might not.
Only Winterton on 1901 Census
Winterton Nelly aged 11 years Born England Boarder read and write living with Hodge Family in Hollywood, County Down. Not Militery Family but one daughter Mary Hodge born Glasgow.
1911 Hodge Family living, house number 2, Martello Terrace, Hollywood, but without Nelly Winterton.
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1911 Census only Winterton Family in Ireland
Winterton John (Head of Household) age 29 years born England,read and write.( Methodist.)
Winterton Emily wife aged 27 years born England.(R.C.)
Winterton Alice Daughter aged 5 years born England.(R.C.)
Married 6 years, 2 children born, 1 child still living.
John is a Soldier. Sergeant in the R.F.A.
Living in Barrack Street, Dundalk, County Louth.
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Don,t know if they are of interest to you, a lot of Hodge Families born in Scotland on Census.
Betty.

Nudge