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I'll give you a hint.

I'm sitting about 10,000 miles south of the UK.


xxxxx mick

Mick - I'm aware that there are many places in the UK where you could be sitting such that almost all the UK was "overseas" - Lerwick, Kirkwall, Lindesfarne, Sheerness, Hayling, Cowes, Holyhead, Biggar, Rothesay, Tobermory to name but a handful. However, this isn't the sense that the GRO uses "overseas", nor most people either, I would think.

I looked at Rootsireland.ie which contains one and a half million death records from all over Ireland.
There is not a single Winterton death on this site

NB: this site provides transcribed records @ 3.50 euros each.
Like all transcribed records they can contain errors.

Thank you so much for that, and thanks to everyone. With a long lost Auntie like this there was always the hope that she had survived and married and had children,and I had lots of unknown cousins to find out there but of course this was always the most likely explanation.

Case closed.


xxxxx mick

Mick...Here are some further details....(Have also sent a PM in case you didn't come back to your thread but GR system playing games again so hope you get it...)



Miltary Death Reg. (Ballincollig)

Winterton Jane Evelyn aged 1 month and 28 days. on the 13.6.1887
Cause of Death : Diarrhea for 14 days. Exhaustion.

Father CG Winterton Sgt Paymaster RH.

Death Reg Dublin under Winterton Jane E.

No known Headstone.

Well- I found a history of the 4th Hussars- and they were in Ballincollig Ireland in 1887!

xxxxx mick

Thanks MGNV, it's certainly overseas from where I am sitting - lol

xxxx mick

Nudge

Hi Mick, just googled www.interment.net clicked into Ireland Cemetery Records, then into Cork, only Cemetery in Cork recorded is The British Military Graveyard., clicked into it and scrolled down to W,s and saw Jane Evelyn Winterton died 13th June 1887, age 2 months.Father C.G.Winterton, 4th (Queens own Dragoon,s) Hussars, Paymaster Sgt. F. Dobbin Abode, Ballincollig.
There is an e-mail address of the person that transcribed the Deaths, if you e-mail her, she may tell you if there is a headstone on the babys grave.There is also an address for the people that are looking after the Cemetery and that have a key to the Cemerety.
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We only have 1901 and 1911 Census here but might be of interest might not.
Only Winterton on 1901 Census
Winterton Nelly aged 11 years Born England Boarder read and write living with Hodge Family in Hollywood, County Down. Not Militery Family but one daughter Mary Hodge born Glasgow.
1911 Hodge Family living, house number 2, Martello Terrace, Hollywood, but without Nelly Winterton.
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1911 Census only Winterton Family in Ireland
Winterton John (Head of Household) age 29 years born England,read and write.( Methodist.)
Winterton Emily wife aged 27 years born England.(R.C.)
Winterton Alice Daughter aged 5 years born England.(R.C.)
Married 6 years, 2 children born, 1 child still living.
John is a Soldier. Sergeant in the R.F.A.
Living in Barrack Street, Dundalk, County Louth.
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Don,t know if they are of interest to you, a lot of Hodge Families born in Scotland on Census.
Betty.

I'm a bit puzzled as to why you should think drowning in the UK might qualify as an "overseas death", but anyways, one can purchase certs (or cheaper still, the uncertified images of the rego) via:
http://www.groireland.ie/

A mystery that has plagued me for 40 years finally solved!
and you know what? - Old family stories are sometimes true!

Amongst new records on Ancestry today, I found her death\
Cork, Ireland, Jul Quarter 1887 Vol 5 Page 47 101594.

Now I just have to work out what the hell they were
doing in Ireland!

Woooo hoooo!


xxxxxx mick

nudge (I live in hope!)

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No, people have checked Scots ppl for me - say no record there. He was stationed in Jamaica and Malta, but that should show up on overseas deaths I guess. Thanks Mick

I've just done a blanket search of patient/institution under name Winterton for England and Scotland............nothing!

It's very strange that her death wasn't registered. Her father was military, so by rights if she drowned outside her birth country, she should be on army deaths overseas and consulate deaths also.

So, no death on scotlandspeople ?




Deb:)

Charles George Winterton born 1859 Cambridge, (died 1922) mother Mary Jane Williamson born 1864 Scalloway Shetlands Scotland.(died london 1897)

Ooohhh.................It's 32 at the moment and climbing...............phew!!!

What were her parent's names?


Deb:)