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We have recentley found out some info about wilfred carpenter. He is my mother-in-laws cousin we have been trying to trace him. We thought that he was shot down in the battle of brittain in the 2nd world war but it turns out that he was shot down over Egypt and is buried in a war cemetry out there.We are now trying to find out how old he was at the time as we can't find a birth record for him. Any more info about him or his family from the west midlands would be great. thanks gary.
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These are the only ones I could find on cwgc.
Casualty Details
Name: CARPENTER, WILFRED
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 40
Date of Death: 14/10/1940
Additional information: Air Raid Warden. Husband of C. M. Carpenter, of 41 Armoury House. Injured in archway of Ashtree House; died same day at Putney Hospital.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: WANDSWORTH, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH
Name: CARPENTER, WILFRED
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Gunner
Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery
Unit Text: 65 (The Norfolk Yeomanry) Anti-Tank Regt
Date of Death: 29/11/1941
Service No: 955764
Additional information: Son of Henry James Carpenter and Mary Ann Carpenter, of Resolven, Glamorgan.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 2. A. 2.
Cemetery: KNIGHTSBRIDGE WAR CEMETERY, ACROMA
Name: CARPENTER, WILFRED
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sergeant
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force
Date of Death: 12/09/1942
Service No: 519711
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Column 250.
Memorial: ALAMEIN MEMORIAL
Looks like it is the last one above. So sadly no age on it.
Cemetery Details
Cemetery: ALAMEIN MEMORIAL
Country: Egypt
Locality: unspecified
Visiting Information: The cemetery is kept open during daylight hours and is manned by our gardeners Saturday to Thursday 07.30 - 14.30. Wheelchair access to this site with some difficulty. For further information regarding wheelchair access, please contact our Enquiries Section on telephone number 01628 507200.
Location Information: The Alamein Memorial forms the entrance to the El Alamein War Cemetery. Alamein is a village, bypassed by the main coast road, approximately 130 kilometres west of Alexandria on the road to Mersa Matruh. The first Commission road direction sign is located just beyond the Alamein police checkpoint and all cemetery visitors should turn off from the main road onto the parallel old coast road. The cemetery lies off the road beyond the ridge, and road direction signs are in place approximately 25 metres before the low metal gates and stone wing walls which are situated centrally at the road edge at the head of the access path into the cemetery. The Cross of Sacrifice feature may be seen from the road.
Historical Information: The campaign in the Western Desert was fought between the Commonwealth forces (with, later, the addition of two brigades of Free French and one each of Polish and Greek troops) all based in Egypt, and the Axis forces (German and Italian) based in Libya. The battlefield, across which the fighting surged back and forth between 1940 and 1942, was the 1,000 kilometres of desert between Alexandria in Egypt and Benghazi in Libya. It was a campaign of manoeuvre and movement, the objectives being the control of the Mediterranean, the link with the east through the Suez Canal, the Middle East oil supplies and the supply route to Russia through Persia. The ALAMEIN MEMORIAL forms the entrance to Alamein War Cemetery. The Land Forces panels commemorate more than 8,500 soldiers of the Commonwealth who died in the campaigns in Egypt and Libya, and in the operations of the Eighth Army in Tunisia up to 19 February 1943, who have no known grave. It also commemorates those who served and died in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Persia. The Air Forces panels commemorate more than 3,000 airmen of the Commonwealth who died in the campaigns in Egypt, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Greece, Crete and the Aegean, Ethiopia, Eritrea and the Somalilands, the Sudan, East Africa, Aden and Madagascar, who have no known grave. Those who served with the Rhodesian and South African Air Training Scheme and have no known grave are also commemorated here. EL ALAMEIN WAR CEMETERY contains the graves of men who died at all stages of the Western Desert campaigns, brought in from a wide area, but especially those who died in the Battle of El Alamein at the end of October 1942 and in the period immediately before that. The cemetery now contains 7,239 Commonwealth burials of the Second World War, of which 814 are unidentified. There are also 102 war graves of other nationalities. The ALAMEIN CREMATION MEMORIAL, which stands in the south-eastern part of El Alamein War Cemetery, commemorates more than 600 men whose remains were cremated in Egypt and Libya during the war, in accordance with their faith.
No. of Identified Casualties: 11868
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Thanks for the info about wifred. The last one on the list definatly sounds like him.He was in the raf, my mum seems to think that he was only about 19 or 20 so very young to die for his country. It would be nice one day to go to see his memorial but along way to go. Thanks again from gary.
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there is a marriage registered at Pontypridd Sept quarter 1905 between a Henry James CARPENTER and one of the brides on the same page is Mary Ann GRIFFITHS so that maybe his parents. The births on Freebmd only go to 1922 at the moment and the only birth for a Wilfred in Pontypridd is registered 1918 but mother's maiden name is CARPENTER as well,,,could be an error. Mother's maiden names were only recorded from mid 1911.
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