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TonyOz

TonyOz Report 29 Oct 2007 09:36

No DERRELL DEATHS FOUND ON VICTORIA PIONEER INDEX, BUT A WALTER DERRILL DEATH FOUND ( Poss: Mispelt for Derrell.? )

DEATHS VIC. PIONEER INDEX:1840 to 1888

DERRILL,Walter
Father: U
Place of Birth: Lond ( London )
Age:37
Reg Year: 1871
Reg State: Victoria
Ref Number: 5268

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MATHEW DERRELL:

Found birth in N.S.W under DERELL
Surname:DERELL
Given name: MATHEW
Fath:WALTER
Moth:CHARLOTTE
District: FORBES
Reg No:12121/1868

Marriage found in Victoria "Federation" years. 1889 to 1901

Surname: DERRELL
Given Names: Mat Chas
Event: M
Sex: M
Spouse Surname/Father: BURCH
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Jessie Jane
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: N S W
Death Place:
Year: 1893
Reg. Number: 1401

CHILDREN TO ABOVE found Registered Victoria.

Surname: DERRELL
Given Names: Fran Amelia
Event: B
Sex: F
Spouse Surname/Father: Mat Chas
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Jessie Jane BURCH
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: RWORTH ( Rushworth )
Death Place:
Year: 1894
Reg. Number: 6722

Surname: DERRELL
Given Names: Mat Wm Walt
Event: B
Sex: M
Spouse Surname/Father: Mat
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Jane BURCH
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: GRANYA
Death Place:
Year: 1896
Reg. Number: 11937

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Possible 2nd marriage of Mathew DERRELL.....Victoria( Note birth place is N.S.W ) same as marriage to Jessie BURCH. I dont think this marriage is Mathews son "Mathew walter william DERRELL" b.1896 as he would have only been 13 years old in 1909.

Surname: DERRELL
Given Names: Mathw
Event: M
Sex:
Spouse Surname/Father: MCKENZIE
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Jessie
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: NSW
Death Place:
Year: 1909
Reg. Number: 6371R

Cannot find a death of Jessie/Jane DERRELL ( Nee BURCH )Mathews first wife.....but found a Jane BURCH death ( below )in 1903 and it may be her but index'd under her maiden name.?

Death registered Victoria.
Surname: BURCH
Given Names: Jane
Event: D
Sex:
Spouse Surname/Father: Unknown
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN
Age: 59
Age Code:
Birth Place:
Death Place: Melb E H ( Possibly means East Melb Hospital or Hotham )
Year: 1903
Reg. Number: 6533

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David DERRELL/EDWARDS

Catherine DERRELL and Septimus walter EDWARDS

There was a birth for a David james EDWARDS in Victoria 1884.
Father was Septimus walter EDWARDS ...but mother was Bridget ellen NONLAN........Perhaps Septimus walter was widowed when he married Catherine DERREL in 1888 and had children from 1st marriage that Catherine DERRELL adopted or took in as her own.?

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Charlotte GOLDING and Rupert BYATT

Two births registered in Victoria: ( Possible Twins..? going by Reg No:.... but also remembering Registration..year does not neccesarily mean birth year.

TOWONG is approx 100km's East of Albury....and not far from Corryong.( Birth place of Isacc israel BALLARD )

BYATT, Charlotte Amelia CB 279013 Birth
Father: U
Mother: Byatt Charl
Event Place: Towong
Reg Year: 1880
Reg State: Victoria
Ref Number: 21788

BYATT, Walter CB 279044 Birth
Father: U
Mother: Byatt Charl
Event Place: Towong
Reg Year: 1880
Reg State: Victoria
Ref Number: 21787

TonyOz

TonyOz Report 29 Oct 2007 09:36

Hi Heather. Strange that you never received Email...?

I have posted the info you asked for here.
GR only allow 5,000 letters..so had to break it into two posts.

If you need a follow up on anything.

The births registry for Vic.is http://www.dvc.vic.gov.au/bdm.htm
I cant be sure about purchasing a BDM cert by other than credit card, as i purchase all mine by credit card on line.
I think you should be able to purchase one by Checque or other means by downloadin an "Application form " but it may
be best to ring the BDM register to check.

Here is a little more info on your Family tree ( below )

I am going away on holidays to Darwin during this week, so if you reply later than thursday i wont be here, so dont think I'm not reponding to your email.

It appears your family Ancestors had many half siblings, and it may be wise to purchase certain Certs to confirm this.
Marriage and Death Certs are good as they are very informative to whom was whom.

Well...i will leave you to decipher all this.

Best wishes for now.

Tony.



Half brother of Catherine ( Isacc israel BALLARD ) married in Vic. in
1909.(below ) If you noticed his birth place CORR ( CORRYONG )1883 i posted above, you will notice he states his birth here on Marriage Index
( Corryong )so preety sure this is his marriage, even though its
listed as Issac hiven Ballard.If you want to follow up on any children....let me know.

Marriage Victoria:
Surname: BALLARD
Given Names: Hiven Isaac
Event: M
Sex:
Spouse Surname/Father: MCKENZIE
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Flora
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: CORRYONG
Death Place:
Year: 1909
Reg. Number: 6372

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Walter Wiliam DERRELL: Most likely Illegitimate.?

DERRELL, William Walter CB 524384 Birth
Father: U
Mother: Derrell Catherine
Event Place: Barnawarth
Reg Year: 1888
Reg State: Victoria
Ref Number: 8653

CAN FIND NO MARRIAGE FOR WALTER WILLIAM DERRELL, BUT IF YOU PURCHASE HIS DEATH CERT.(below ) IT SHOULD HAVE SPOUSE ( if any ) AND ALSO ANY DEAD OR SURVIVING CHILDREN LISTED. EVEN THOUGH AGE IS WRONG AT DEATH, MY OWN EXPERIANCE TELLS ME THAT SOMETIMES ON DEATH INDEX's THAT WHOEVER FILLED OUT HIS DEATH CERT MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN HIS AGE AT TIME OF DEATH, SO THEY USE AN EDUCATED GUESS.

DEATHS VICTORIA 1920 to 1985

Surname: DERRELL
Given Names: Walter William
Father: Unknown
Mother: UNKNOWN
Death Place: HEID ( Heidleberg )
Age: 63
Age Code:
Year: 1957
Reg Number: 6792
Event: D

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Heather

Heather Report 27 Oct 2007 12:25

Tony,
Thank you so very much for the info, now I have some leads to go on. I really appreciate your help. Thank you once again.
Heather

TonyOz

TonyOz Report 27 Oct 2007 01:07

Hi Heather. These below may explain why Catherine's marriage had "step father of the bride" as a BALLARD.


DERRELL, Cath CM 245633 Marriage
Spouse: EDWARDS, Septimus Walt
Marriage Place: N.S.W.
Reg Year: 1888
Reg State: Victoria ( Registered in Victoria )
Ref Number: 6954

Birth found in Victoria:
DERRELL, William Walter CB 524384 Birth
Father: U
Mother: Derrell Catherine
Event Place: Barnawarth
Reg Year: 1888
Reg State: Victoria
Ref Number: 8653
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Marriage N.S.W of Charlotte GOLDING/GOLDER.?

DERRELL, Walter CM 245635 Marriage
Spouse: GOLDING, Charlotte
Index Year: 1868
Reg Year: 1868
District: WOLLONGONG
Reg State: New South Wales
Ref Number: 3666

Possible 2nd Marriage of Charlotte.

DERRELL, Charlotte CM 245634 Marriage
Spouse: BYATT, Rupert
Index Year: 1872
Reg Year: 1872
District: ALBURY
Reg State: New South Wales
Ref Number: 1354

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Possible 3rd marriage of Charlotte to a BALLARD
Byatt could be mis-spelt as Baytt....Byett.

BALLARD, Israel CM 35673 Marriage
Spouse: BAYTT, Charlotte
Reg Year: 1883
Reg State: Victoria
Ref Number: 2102


Cheers. Tony ( Victoria Aus. )
ps. If you purchase one of Charlotte's marraige cert. it possibly will tell you her birth place....and parents ( hopefully )

Heather

Heather Report 26 Oct 2007 15:31

Hi Peeps
I am wondering if anyone can help me. I am trying to find info on my gg grandmother Catherine Derrell born Greg Greg NSW Australia. She married Septymus Walter Edwards. On their marriage certificate it has listed that the "step father of the bride" ... Isaac Ballard gave written consent for the marriage. I have no idea about finding anything on him or Catherines mother Charlotte Golder. All of these people died in Australia, I dont know where any of them were born except Catherine. It was either Victoria or NSW these people would have lived. I was wondering if by some miracle someone could help me. That is all I know of them. thanks for your time in reading this.