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This might be hard! SMITH Alice Mary Born 1886/7 Gloustershire possibly in the Temple Guiting area, as this was stated on her marriage certificate, her father is Charles Frederick Smith. Alice married in 1908 in Stow-on-the-Wold. This is all I know. Any help would be appreciated.
Barbara

Hi Barbara, what was Charles occupation at the time of her marriage?

Charles was a Carpenter

Sorry Barbara, cannot see her at all.

Witnesses?

Her marriage cert stated where she was born? That's unusual.

Rose

Witnesses of the Marriage were Herbert George Gardner and Ada Annie Gardner. These are a brother and sister of the groom Jesse Gardner born 1884.
Barbara

Temple Guiting come under Winchcomb district and there are no births that fit.

Rose

I think she was from Hampshire originally:



1891 England Census
about Alice Smith
Name: Alice Smith
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles F
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Female
Where born: Winchester, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: St Faith
Ecclesiastical parish: St Faith
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: Winchester
Sub-registration district: Winchester
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Smith 4
Charles F Smith 26 <<<<<carpenter
Fanny Smith 24
Frederick Smith 6
Mabel Smith 2






Deb:)

Wow! Thanks Deb,
I did look once before in 1901 census and found 1901 census possible aged 13 residing Ecclesall, yorkshire. Profession of Cabinet case maker. Could this be her??
Barbara

Hi Barbara,

Here she is:



1901 England Census
about Alice M Smith
Name: Alice M Smith
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Winchester, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Milland
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Cheesehill
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: Winchester
Sub-registration district: Winchester
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 185
Household Members: Name Age
Alice M Smith 14
Ellen Woodford 37
Leonard J W Woodford 32







Deb:)

One last question. How do I order a death certificate if I dont have the Reference number or exact date??
Barbara

Well, you have to search death indexes under her married name and try to match up area/age at death etc..............it's a long search if you haven't got an idea of roughly when she died. does anyone in the family remember anything about her?


Deb:)

Silly me, I just re read some notes that I have from the inscription on the Headstone. Now realise I have the date of death, but not the burial date.
Thankyou Rose and Deb for help.
Barbara

This is her birth ref:

Name: Alice Mary Smith
Year of Registration: 1887
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Winchester
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 114






Deb:)

Thankyou again