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Why can't I find some of my relatives at times on Ancestory----here goes
James Mangle born 1857,Baptism 17 July 1857,Darlington.
I can't find him on 1861 census for Darlington and can't find a death for him----Help---again.Please

Name: James Mangles
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Beechburn, Durham, England

Civil Parish: North Bedburn
Ecclesiastical parish: Witton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Hamsterley
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 138

Household Members: Name Age
Fredrick Mangles 5
George Mangles 36
George Mangles 9
James Mangles 2
Jane Mangles 32
Robert Mangles 10

Class: RG9; Piece: 3714; Folio: 17; Page: 30

Oops sorry I should have put in his Parents names---they were James and Mary Mangles----these Mangles are nearly as bad as Smiths!!!

Judith
I didn't know about the registration--re 1875 thanks for that.,so i must presume he died and that's why he's not on 1861---ah well it means i must trawl the deaths in the parish registers then.
Thank you

Deaths of james Mangle in Darlington 1857 to 1957:

MANGLES James 44 386 1880 Apply for certificate 44-386 - [new window]
MANGLE James 69 178 1898 Apply for certificate 69-178 - [new window]
MANGLE James 24C 253 1947 Apply for certificate 24C-253 - [new window]

take you pick, thats if he died in darlington, nice to see that it not just me doing this in Darlo.
Allan

I think you will find that the death will be registered, at the time of the burial the vicar will probably have informed the registrar.

i cannot find him in West Cemetery Headstone Database, so he looks not to be in the West Cemy,
Allan

Thanks for that info Allan,I already have 2 of the James deaths and they are mine.
Where are you in Darlo.
Yes had looked on West Cemetery database too but thanks.

Keith
thanks I will have a look on parish registers when i get to the library,he isn't on online registrars for Darlington.

V near the West Cemy (but not in it for a long time yet)
Allan

Allan--I live near Harrowgate Hill---it's a small world!!

What did he do?
i see a George Mangles a Cab Driver in Bondgate on the 1881 (i know it has a 's' but the registars made mistakes)
Allan

Do you have these?

1841 Census Darlington George Mangle abt 1784 N
1851 Census Darlington James Mangle abt 1825 Snape

Allan

Allan
Yes the Cab buisiness was my hubby's family's ---not that they saw any of the money from it,and looks like all the Mangles belong to his mother's family.
Thanks have got the above Mangles,the S was dropped in about 1850's.

Are you related to John Mangle?

John Mangle (1751-1831)
First rode for John Hoyle whose daughter he married. He inherited Hoyle's Ashgill establishment in due course. After being widowed he married Mrs. Pearson the hostess of the "King's Head" in Richmond. Mangle was known as "Crying Jackie", trained and jockeyed four different St. Leger winners from 1783 to 1792. He rode for Hon. J. Smith Barry, Mr. William Bethell, Mr. Henry Peirce, Mr. John Pratt, and many other well know sportsmen. He amassed a fortune. He then erected a house and stables at Brecongill where he trained horses. His principal jockeys were John Jackson and Benjamin Smith. He is burried at Coverham in Wensleydale.

Allan

Allan
I haven't got that far back but some of the Mangles were from Hauxwell in 1799,wow where did you get this information from.
They were mostly "Horsey" people.

i just looked up ' Mangle, Darlington'
This gave me John as one of Lord Barnard's (then Earl of Darlington)(by the way my 6xgreatgrandfather was the Earls Butler)jockey/trainer, as Staindrop / Raby is not far away i looked further and go the above.
Allan

Allan
I have looked but can't find that info re Lord Barnard