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Ernest Thomas Mann b1900 Leicester

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Gillian

Gillian Report 29 Oct 2007 16:33

Trying to find Children / family related to Ernest Thomas Mann - born 1900 in Leicester who married May Hickling in 1922. I have him in the 1901 census - his parents married in 1899, so dont know if he was an only child or not?? Can anyone find any siblings please???
Ernest's dad - Walter Mann was my grandad. If anyone can tell me more about Ernest, his dad or their decendents- I am particularly keen to find living relatives - I believe that I may have found 1 so far. knowledge of whether Ernest had any brothers or sisters would be very much appreciated.

trishcurtis

trishcurtis Report 29 Oct 2007 17:07

Hi Gillian can only find one positive match
Walter James Mann mairred Ada Rutter as you said 1899 the birth index doesn't give mothers maiden name until after 1910
Elsie A Mann b 1911 July-Sept Leicester vol 7a p 427 mother maiden name Rutter

found several other Manns b Leicester including 2 Walters but you would have to obtain their birth certificates to find if right mothers maiden name

did a wild card using several christian names with Rutter as maiden name but Elsie the only one that came up
Pat

Gillian

Gillian Report 30 Oct 2007 09:48

Hi Pat

Thank you SO much for your help!

Ada Rutter married Walter Mann in 1899 and almost immediately had a son Ernest in 1900.

Many years later, in 1927, Walter married my gran Annie Kilby -nee Fowkes - they had had a child together in 1922, Irene (my mum, who passed in 1977).

I have tried, but havent been sucessful in finding any siblings for Ernest, but feel confident that it is likely there were some - as at the turn of the century some families were quite large - so to be an only child seemed a bit unlikely.

You have now found Elsie, born 1911- thank you. I will now want to find out as much about her as is pos, particularly her decendents and any living family.

At this moment in time, I believe that Ada dies in 1919, which would meal Elsie would be 8yrs old - is it pos to find out what happens to her? - Any ideas where I should be looking?

Also, 1900 birth of Ernest and 1911 birth of Elsie. thats 11 yrs difference - it is likely there are other siblings in between - I am obviously not very good at finding them. Any ideas?

All these events are likely to be in Leicester. Your help most appreciated .
Very kind regards
Gill

Gillian

Gillian Report 1 Nov 2007 14:00

I now know that Elsie married Arthur Ward in leicester in 1933.
I have found one child so far born 1935 - Colin A Ward & I have also found his children.
I dont know if Elsie & Arthur Ward had any other children, but believe that it is more likely than not that they did - can anyone help trace them please - we are looking at births in leicester between 1933 & say 1950ish in the name of "Ward" with mothers maiden name of "Mann"

I am still looking also for any siblings of Elsie b 1911 & Ernest b 1900. children of Walter J Mann & Ada Rutter.
Many thanks

trishcurtis

trishcurtis Report 1 Nov 2007 15:22

Hello Gillian the problem is without a known Christian name you have to just put in first name beginning with A then look at all the Manns for a maiden name Rutter etc. Mann is a common name so you get maybe 2 pages each quarter to check I tried from 1913 onwards but gave up as just to many pages and often blurred so can't make out names. I imagine same problem with Ward as is with mine Clark just too many to do it 'blind'. I have just done a check for a person looking for Varty sirname that was easy as often only 2 or 3 on pages sorry good luck Pat
PS

Walter Arthur Mann b 1902 July-Sept Liecester vol 7a page 220

Walter Henry Mann 1906 April-June vol 7a page 252

no maiden name you would need to send for birth certificates do you feel lucky?

Gillian

Gillian Report 6 Nov 2007 09:46

Elsie Mann married Arthur Ward in leicester in 1933.
I have found one child so far born 1935 - Colin A Ward & I have also found his children.
Can anyone help me find other children of Elsie & Arthur Ward please? We are looking at births in leicester between 1933 & say 1950ish in the name of "Ward" with mothers maiden name of "Mann"

I am still looking also for any siblings of Elsie b 1911 & Ernest b 1900 both "Mann" & they are the children of Walter J Mann & Ada Rutter.
Thanks