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please please can you help i have a joseph nice b 1835 in my tree from bocking essex parents edmund nice b 1809 poslingford suffolk ann ?1811 bocking essex. i have found him in 1841 and 1851 census. a joseph nice died 1880 sept colchester essex aged 45 is this him as someone says i have the wrong joseph also re who he married i thought ann maria but told this is also wrong please help as pulling my hair out and going bald heather

If 'someone' told you the info you have is incorrect, can this 'someone' provide documentary eveidence?

Reg

This is 1851 for the person you describe above........

Name: Joseph Nice
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edmund
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Bocking, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Castle Hedingham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England


Registration district: Halstead
Sub-registration district: Halstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 100
Household Members: Name Age
Ambrose Nice 11
Ann Nice 40
Edmund Nice 42 b. Poslingford
Emily Nice 1 Mo
Joseph Nice 16
Robert Nice 9
William Nice 12

Is this Joseph definitely your relation?

You need to work 'backwards' from known relations.........have you established a link with this man?

Reg

Heather, who is the Nice ancestor you definitely, really, certainly know for sure? Then maybe we can work back.

G'day Reg.

Ozi.

Some of the family in 1861

Name: Emily Nice
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Castle Hedingham, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Castle Hedingham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England


Registration district: Halstead
Sub-registration district: Hedingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 89
Household Members: Name Age
Ambrose Nice 21
Emily Nice 10
Mary A Nice 17
Robert Nice 19


Reg

Hi, Ozi..........how's things?

This, in 1871, is the Joseph who married Ann...........and the one who died in 1880


Name: Joseph Nice
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Lawford, Essex, England

Civil Parish: St Peter
County/Island: Essex
Country: England


Registration district: Colchester
Sub-registration district: Colchester Second Ward
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Nice 34
Frank O Nice 3 months
Joseph Nice 35
Joseph G Nice 7


I cannot see the one born in Bocking in any census after 1851

Reg

hi reg definetely a link with joseph he was a brother to thomas henry nice parents edmund and ann but before my time and any other living member of family as all they know is their grandparents frederick albert nice and florence palmer thanks for your help though as i know you are all so busy greatly appreciated heather

This ...in 1841...is the Joseph who married Ann. He is NOT the same one as 'yours'

Name: Joseph Nice
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Essex, England

Civil Parish: Lawford
Hundred: Tendring
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: Tendring
Sub-registration district: Ardleigh
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Nice 1
Hannah Nice 33
James Nice 9
Joseph Nice 35
Joseph Nice 5
Thomas Nice 11

Reg

re cert yes they have sent me it died 1892 colchester aged 28 years maybe the other one is joseph as if i recall he died aged 45 years heather

You need to start with Frederick and work backwards....checking at every stage by obtaining documentation.............

Where and when was Frederick born?

Reg

Not sure how much research you have done....so if this duplicates any info.......sorry.


Marriage
Frederick Albert Nice 1894 Jul-Aug-Sep Paddington Greater London, London, Middlesex
Florence Susan Palmer 1894 Jul-Aug-Sep Paddington Greater London, London, Middlesex

Birth

Name: Frederick Albert Nice
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: St George Hanover Square
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 330


1871 census

Name: Frederick Nice
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Pimlico, London, England

Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Belgrave
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Nice 35 b. Essex
Frederick Nice 1
Thomas Nice 34 b. Stanaway. Essex
Walter Nice 4


Thomas and Emma's marriage

Emma Meadows 1865 Jan-Feb-Mar Chelsea (1841-1981) Greater London, London, Middlesex
Thomas Henry Nice 1865 Jan-Feb-Mar Chelsea (1841-1981) Greater London, London, Middlesex

Do you have this cert?

Reg

have got details but not cert heather cant say how much i am appreciating this heather

This MAY be Emma in 1861.........but I would strongly advise you to get the marriage cert........to establish beyond doubt the name(s) and occupations of the respective fathers.

Name: Emma Meadows
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Halstead, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Halstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Halstead
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: Halstead
Sub-registration district: Halstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 49
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Meadows 75
Emma Meadows 14
Hannah Meadows 42
Mary Ann Meadows 9
William Meadows 41
Hannah Wicker 70


Reg