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Welsh census help please..

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Diane

Diane Report 2 Nov 2007 00:40

I am trying to find the following in the Welsh censuses, but my knowledge of Wales is limited, so I am not able to easily identify place names which might actually be very close to the villages mentionned.

I've tried looking for all sorts of combinations of wildcard searches and haven't succeeded.

The information I have is:-

Seeking Elizabeth James, bc1867 (based on death in 1953 aged 86 so may be a couple of years out... )Born at Methyr Cynog, Breconshire.

I think she had a sister Margaret, don't know if older or younger.

Elizabeth James married William Williams (don't know when).
William Williams born c1870 based on death aged 81 in 1951. He was born in a place called something like Llethgullen, I'm sure that's spelt wrong, but that's how it sounds.

Any finds gratefully received, I will post thanks, but possibly not until tomorrow!

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Nov 2007 02:03

1871 only one listed as born in Breconshire

Name: Elizabeth James
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Bronllys, Breconshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Bronllys
County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Hay
Sub-registration district: Talgarth
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 80
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin James 7
Elizabeth James 2
John James 9
Margaret James 5
Mary James 38
William James 31



1871 right birth place but not sure of name
Name: Ghenham James
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Merthyr Cynog, Breconshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Venny Vach
Town: Venny Vach
County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Brecknock
Sub-registration district: Brecknock
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
John Davids 55
Margaret Davids 54
William I Davids 11
James Davies 22
Ghenham James 5
Thomas Moseby 13
Magdalen Powrck 20
John Tougas 19

Diane

Diane Report 2 Nov 2007 11:07

Glitterbaby,
thanks for those, I'm not sure though, as I don't think there were any other children of that family, apart from Elizabeth and Margaret...

I knew it was a tricky one though!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Nov 2007 11:34

You need to find the marriage..........the cert will have the ages of the couple, plus names and occupations of their fathers (if known)

Tracing them on censuses would then be easier ( one hopes)

Did this couple have children? If so, what were their names, and approximate birth years?

Reg

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 2 Nov 2007 11:35

Another maybe! I'm sorry I don't know Breconshire

1871 Wales Census
about Elizabeth James
Name: Elizabeth James
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: David
Mother's name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: Llewel, Breconshire, Wales

Civil parish: Merthyr Tydfil
Ecclesiastical parish: Dowlais
Town: Merthyr Tydfil
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Lower Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 102
Household Members: Name Age
David James 35
David James 2
Elizabeth James 5
Hannah James 3 months
Margaret James 30
Margaret James 9
Mary James 7


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Nov 2007 11:38

From freebmd............


Marriages Dec 1891 (>99%)


James Elizabeth Brecknock 11b 205
Jones Price Brecknock 11b 205
Thomas Annie Brecknock 11b 205
Williams William Brecknock 11b 205


BRECKNOCK district includes Merthyr Cynog

Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Nov 2007 11:40

1901 census?????? Note the birth year.......

Name: Elizabeth Williams
Age in 1901: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Merthyr Cynog, Breconshire, Wales

Civil Parish: St David Within
Ecclesiastical parish: Brecknock Christ College and St David
Town: Brecon
County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales


Registration district: Brecknock
Sub-registration district: Brecknock
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 135
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Williams 29
William Williams 35 b. Merthyr Cynog. Occ: Hotel Bus Driver


Reg

Diane

Diane Report 2 Nov 2007 11:57

Claire... thanks for the lookup :)

Reggie many thanks for that ... you seem to have found the right people!

I will absorb and check it out...

Many thanks :))

Diane

Diane Report 2 Nov 2007 12:10

Reg...

Just realised I saved that record yesterday as a possible! As I had William born in a diff parish to Elizabeth I wasn't 100% sure.

They did have children, but not until 1904 so nothing to tie them in on the censuses... I think I need to go back and ask some more questions!

Marriage looks good though! thankyou.

Diane

Diane Report 2 Nov 2007 12:10

Jolly Sailor.. thanks for the lookup.