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Dianne
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4 Nov 2007 23:03 |
I couldn't find a marriage for those two either. Maybe they didn't bother and just lived together, you never know.
I found this marriage for Robert and Betsy/ey though, although by the time they marry they already have a few little children.
Robert Maxwell & Betsy Cunningham Sept quarter 1863, Cockermouth, 10b 637.
Anyway I will have to pop off now and get my bath and bed as I have to be up early tomorrow.
Dianne xx
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SylviaInCanada
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4 Nov 2007 22:43 |
There is only one Georgina born ca 1864 Nailsworth Gloucester that I can find, and that is Georgina Harrison, daughter of Arthur and Mary A.
BUT I cannot find a William Maxwell/Georgina Harrison wedding (not even a Maxwell/Harrison wedding!).
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Dianne
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4 Nov 2007 22:42 |
Birth ref to match above baptism
William Maxwell, September Quarter 1863, Cockermouth, 10b 487
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SylviaInCanada
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4 Nov 2007 22:41 |
I thought finding an apprentice blacksmith was too easy!!!
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Dianne
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4 Nov 2007 22:39 |
Baptism from IGI, extracted record so it's ok.
William Maxwell (no middle name of James mentioned though) Baptised 16 September 1863, Maryport, son of Robert & Betsey.
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Dianne
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4 Nov 2007 22:35 |
Hi Sylvia
I've investigated the William T Maxwell from the 81 census, but he turns out to be called William Turner Maxwell son of Thomas and Mary Ann.
I have a feeling our William James is the one just named William on the 71, son of Betsy Maxwell, widow, at 8 Catherine Street, Crosscanonby.
Dianne xx
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SylviaInCanada
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4 Nov 2007 22:01 |
How about this one on the 1881 Census??
Name: William T. Maxwell Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Apprentice Gender: Male Where born: Maryport, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Torpenhow and Whitrigg County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address: Torpenhow Black Bull Inn Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Apprentice Blacksmith Registration district: Wigton Sub-registration district: Abbey Holme ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William T. Maxwell 17 Isabella Railton 26 Daughter-in-law Margaret Railton 19 Richd. R. Railton 33 Son William Railton 63 Blacksmith, Widower William Railton
it does look like a T on the image, definately NOT a J
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Dianne
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4 Nov 2007 21:45 |
You never know Sylvia. They do say to keep an eye on people like lodgers, marriage witnesses etc as they often turn out to be extended family.
Dianne xx
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SylviaInCanada
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4 Nov 2007 21:41 |
Hi Dianne,
I read it that way as well ............ but it is somewhat strange at that time to have a lowly Charwoman move to another county to work
May be there will turn out to be a familial connection fo some sort, or may be she was a woman fallen on ahrd times!
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SylviaInCanada
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4 Nov 2007 21:40 |
William James was born in Maryport, Cumberland, ca 1864
Georgina ??? was bor in Nailsworth, Gloucestershire, ca 1865
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Dianne
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4 Nov 2007 21:39 |
Hi Sylvia
I noticed that, but I don't think she is a domestic to the family, I think she is just their lodger. As it's in the occupation column I think she is a charwoman/domestic as her job. Otherwise it would have said servant in the relationship to head column, and it says Boarder in that column. I might be wrong though.
Dianne xx
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SylviaInCanada
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4 Nov 2007 21:33 |
On the actual census image, Caroline Wood is a Charwoman Domestic
b.ca 1858, Homerton, London
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Dianne
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4 Nov 2007 21:16 |
Hi Shane
Sorry to keep you waiting. I had to take my little boy to a party.
Caroline Wood is a Boarder in their house.
Dianne xx
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Shane
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4 Nov 2007 18:27 |
Joan
I have just talked to my grandmother and suddenly you have jogged all her memories!
She remembers that her father was William Horace Maxwell and that he was born in Newcastle, not that she told us this at the time!
We will now be able to order a birth certificate, that will confirm all the above census details.
Thank you so much for all your help.
Could I ask another favour please, could you confirm who Caroline Wood was on the 1901 census please? (see above for details place)
Kind Regards and thanks once again. Shane
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Joan
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4 Nov 2007 17:35 |
Shane,
This may be William's birth record:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about William Horace Maxwell Name: William Horace Maxwell Year of Registration: 1890 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec DISTRICT: Newcastle Upon Tyne County: Northumberland, Tyne and Wear Volume: 10b Page: 145
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4 Nov 2007 17:31 |
Shane,
Here's the birth record for Gerald Walter Maxwell.
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about Gerald Walter Maxwell Name: Gerald Walter Maxwell Year of Registration: 1888 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec DISTRICT: Lambeth County: Greater London, London, Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 346
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Shane
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4 Nov 2007 17:14 |
Dear Dianne, I am really excited about this as it looks as if you have found the family. I will be able to look for marriages and birth information now. Thank you for your help. Shane
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Dianne
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4 Nov 2007 16:56 |
1891
Name: William H Maxwell Age: 6/12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Relation: Son Father's Name: William S Mother's Name: Georgina Gender: Male Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne Civil Parish: Byker Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas Town: Newcastle County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne Sub-registration district: Byker ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Georgina Maxwell 27 Jerrald W Maxwell 2 William H Maxwell 6/12 William S Maxwell 27
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Name: William H Maxwell Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Emma Mother's Name: Georgina Gender: Male Where born: Newcastle Civil Parish: East Barnet Ecclesiastical parish: East Barnet St Mary County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Barnet Sub-registration district: Barnet ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 208 Household Members: Name Age Georgina Maxwell 36 Gerald W Maxwell 12 Norman Maxwell 2 Reginald Maxwell 7 William Emma Maxwell 37 William H Maxwell 10 Caroline Wood 43
Shane
I think this may be your guy. On 1891 William senior is a blacksmith and on 1901 he is an engine smith. William senior is described as William Emma on 1901, but the image is clearly William James.
William James is born in Maryport, Cumberland.
Dianne xx
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Shane
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4 Nov 2007 15:24 |
I have just received my great grandfathers marriage certificate. William Maxwell married in 1913, Horsley Gloucestershire and it says that he was aged 22, so he would have been born in 1891. His father was William James Maxwell a blacksmith. William Maxwell's occupation is listed as brass polisher.
I am struggling to find William or his father on the 1901 census as I am not sure where he was born.
Family gossip is that the family came from Edinburgh and moved directly to Gloucestershire but I don't know when or if they even did!!!!
Any help would be most appreciated as I can't go back any further until I have his birth certificate and census information would help with that.
Many thanks. Shane
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