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Baker B`ham warwickshire

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Lynne

Lynne Report 4 Nov 2007 18:56

HELP, going around in circles, trying to locate

William Baker 33,(head) unemployed married to Maud? 33, children
George 9
Emily 7
Louisa 3
Jessica 1
Thomas Baker 47 (brother married to Mary Ann 42
Thomas 14 ( my gfather )
all living at
Barford St B`ham Warwickshire in 1891 census

I am going round in circles, trying to find them 71 or 81 census.

HELP
Lynne

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Nov 2007 19:05

Fore reference, as there are some other names that may have been used!!!

1891 Census

Name: William Baker
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maud E
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St David
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emily Frances Baker 7 b.ca 1884, Birmingham, Scholar
George Baker 9 b.ca 1882, Birmingham, Scholar
Jessie Baker 1 b.ca 1890, Birmingham
Louisa Baker 3 b.ca 1888, Birmingham
Mary Ann Baker 42 b.ca 1849, Birmingham, sister-in-law
Maud E Baker 33 b.ca 1858, (birth place not known)
Thomas Baker 47 b.ca 1844, Birmingham, Brother, Painter and Paper Hanger
Thomas Baker 14 b.ca 1877, Birmingham, Nephew, No Occupation
William Baker 33 No Occupation


Address:- 12 Court 1 House Barford Street




sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Nov 2007 19:10

You didn't mention that 14 year old Thomas is the son of Thomas & Mary Ann, not William & Maud.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Nov 2007 19:11

Hi Margaret!

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Nov 2007 19:15

If Thomas is your grandfather, do you ahve his birth certificate?

Is Mary Ann his mother??


I ask because it is difficult to find a William born in Birmingham father Thomas and mother Mary Ann



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Nov 2007 19:21

I wonder if this is William's marriage registration??

From freebmd.org


Marriages Mar 1885 (>99%)

Baker William Alfred Birmingham 6d 19
KELLY Maud Elizabeth Birmingham 6d 19




sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Lynne

Lynne Report 4 Nov 2007 19:22

Ooooooooooops, sorry, yes, 14yr old Thomas, is son of Thomas 47. ggfather

I am unable to find any of those listed in 81 and 71 census.
Lynne

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Nov 2007 19:26

Similarly,

I wonder if this is Thomas' marriage to Mary Ann


Marriages Mar 1877 (>99%)

>>>>Baker Thomas William Birmingham 6d 155
Guest Isaac Birmingham 6d 155
>>>>>Harvey Mary Ann Birmingham 6d 155
Knight Caroline Birmingham 6d 155
Knight Carolne Birmingham 6d 155





Both these registrations (ie William's and Thomas's) are suppositions only.


You should get the birth certificate of one of the children of each marriage and find out what the mother's maiden name was.

Then you can get the marriage certiificate(s) IF it fits, and find out the fathers' names of the brides and grooms.



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Lynne

Lynne Report 4 Nov 2007 19:29

I have sited his discharge papers, from the army, showing my gmother. I also mentioned his father (Thomas) as living in Barford St.

Very true, Mary Ann, could have been a step mother

His entry into the army give place of birth, as b`ham

Lynne

Lynne Report 4 Nov 2007 19:40

Thanks Sylvia, I will try and get the certs:

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Nov 2007 19:44

Was he the William Baker, Soldier, age 24, in hospital on the 1881 Census???



Apart from this, I can't find anything with any certainty!!!



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Lynne

Lynne Report 4 Nov 2007 19:52

I didn`t know anything about William, until Friday!, When I found Thomas`s records.
Never a dull moment, aye! :-)