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birth and death details needed plz

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Shona

Shona Report 6 Nov 2007 19:54

its for Mr John Dow. Of Falkirk.

Married Mary Dow in Bannockburn 19.6.1865 but i cant find birth date or death dates for them.

On census saying that John was a shoemaker.

They had a child James Dow whose birth date is 17.8.1870

Can anyone help me find birth and death details

I think John should be born around 1843
and Mary 1842

thanks
shona

Carrie

Carrie Report 6 Nov 2007 20:06

1881

Looks like Mary Died early to mid 1870's

Name: John Dow
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relationship: Son
Mother's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Methaen, Perthshire
Registration Number: 479/1
Registration district: Falkirk Burgh
Civil parish: Falkirk Burgh
County: Stirlingshire
Address: 15 W. Bridge St
Occupation: Shoemaker
ED: 6
Page: 14 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 75
Line: 17
Roll: cssct1881_134
Household Members: Name Age
James Dow 10
Jane Dow 72
Janet Dow 8
John Dow 33

Carrie

Carrie Report 6 Nov 2007 20:16

From the IGI

JOHN DOW Pedigree
Male


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth: 02 MAY 1848

Christening: 14 MAY 1848 Methven, Perth, Scotland

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: DAVID DOW Family
Mother: JANET ANGUS

Parents names will show on his MC to confirm, same for Mary's

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Nov 2007 20:17

This is the only John showing about that time. Not definate it's him though.



JOHN MARSHALL DOW Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
24 NOV 1838 Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: DAVID DOW Family
Mother: JEAN MAIN


More likely to be Carrie's. Well done.

Shona

Shona Report 6 Nov 2007 20:18

Hi Carrie dont think this is same person mother is Margaret
father James Dow

Carrie

Carrie Report 6 Nov 2007 20:27

This is them in
1871
Name: John Dow
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Metham, Perthsh
Registration Number: 479/1
Registration district: Falkirk Burgh
Civil parish: Falkirk Burgh
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Pleasance Sq
Occupation: Shoe Maker
ED: 6
Page: 40 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 236
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1871_83
Household Members: Name Age
James Dow 7 Mo
John Dow 24
Mary Dow 25


Are you sure James didn't also go by the name John, as father John in 1881 has same Birth place and occupation..

Was Mary's actual Maiden name also Dow.

Shona

Shona Report 6 Nov 2007 20:30

thanks lol

yes mary maiden name was same name
thats them
do you hold any more details

sorry im new and not sure where to find more details

Carrie

Carrie Report 6 Nov 2007 20:31

Shona

Have you been on Scotlandspeople

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Nov 2007 20:31

1861 Scotland Census
about John Dow
Name: John Dow
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Jean
Gender: Male
Where born: Methven, Perth
Registration Number: 479/1
Registration district: Falkirk Burgh
Civil Parish: Falkirk Burgh
County: Stirlingshire
Address: West Bridge St
Occupation: Shoe - Maker
ED: 6
Page: 3 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 15
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1861_64
Household Members:
Name Age
James Dow 55
James Dow 10
Jean Dow 50
Jean Dow 17
John Dow 13
Margaret Dow 15



1851 Scotland Census
about John Dow
Name: John Dow
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Jean
Gender: Male
Where born: Methven, Perthshire
Parish Number: 479
Civil Parish: Falkirk
Town: Gartcows
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Garcows
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 8
Page: 25 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 85
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1851_100
Household Members:
Name Age
James Dow 46
James Dow 1
Jean Dow 40
Jean Dow 8
John Dow 3
Margret Dow 5

Shona

Shona Report 6 Nov 2007 20:34

hi yes couldnt find anything

Shona

Shona Report 6 Nov 2007 20:37

scotlands people dont goas far back for birth details

Carrie

Carrie Report 6 Nov 2007 20:37

Shona

Look at the address's in 1861 and 1881...

Shona

Shona Report 6 Nov 2007 20:43

look where
sorry i dont understand

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Nov 2007 20:46

Shona, get the MC from scotlandspeople. It will tell you the name and occupations of both sets of parents and then you can work back.

Liz

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Nov 2007 20:46

1861 and 1881 are both West Bridge St for address

Carrie

Carrie Report 6 Nov 2007 20:46

Look at the address's on the 1861 Alviegal posted and the 1881 I posted, they are the same..


In Scotland the name Jane, Jean, Janet and Jessie Can all be the same person, confusing yes, but asomething you get used to...

Shona

Shona Report 6 Nov 2007 20:49

hi
i have marriage certificate here
it says in 1865 he was 22
his father was dead and mother margaret nee barns

thanks

Carrie

Carrie Report 6 Nov 2007 21:00

Can't find a John with mother Margaret, its possible she went by the name of Jean or Jane.

Have you tried looking for his parents marriage, that might help.

Shona got to go, MSN-ing with my brother, who lives a long way from me

all the best
Carrie

Carrie

Carrie Report 6 Nov 2007 21:19

Checking on the 1841 Census, I see John's (1847) grandmother was called Margaret.

I think somehow things have got criss crossed??

as there is a Jean Burns 1841...

Name: Jean Burns
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Where born: Perthshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Methven
County: Perthshire
Address: Methven West Half
Occupation: Female Servant
Parish Number: 380
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age


alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Nov 2007 21:25

Getting away from John, this seems to be Mary's birth

MARY DOW Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
22 APR 1845 Larbert, Stirling, Scotland
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: ANDREW DOW Family
Mother: JEAN BAIRD


1851 Scotland Census
about Mary Dow
Name: Mary Dow
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Andrew
Mother's Name: Lean
Gender: Female
Where born: Larbert, Stirling Sh
Parish Number: 485
Civil Parish: Larbert
Town: West Carron
County: Stirlingshire
Address: West Carron
Occupation: At School
ED: 10
Page: 5 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 20
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1851_102
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Dow 12
Andrew Dow 42
Elizabeth Dow 9
James Dow 3
Lean Dow 46
Mary Dow 6