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thanks everyone thats brilliant

And Johns Parents marriage

JEAN BURNS Pedigree
Female Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: JAMES DOW Family
Marriage: 19 DEC 1841 Methven, Perth, Scotland

you are a superstar

thanks
shona

Marriage of Mary's parents?



ANDREW DOW Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: JEAN BAIRD Family
Marriage:
01 JUL 1838 Larbert, Stirling, Scotland



Marriage of John's parents?

JAMES DOW Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: JEAN BURNS Family
Marriage:
19 DEC 1841 Methven, Perth, Scotland

Getting away from John, this seems to be Mary's birth

MARY DOW Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
22 APR 1845 Larbert, Stirling, Scotland
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: ANDREW DOW Family
Mother: JEAN BAIRD


1851 Scotland Census
about Mary Dow
Name: Mary Dow
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Andrew
Mother's Name: Lean
Gender: Female
Where born: Larbert, Stirling Sh
Parish Number: 485
Civil Parish: Larbert
Town: West Carron
County: Stirlingshire
Address: West Carron
Occupation: At School
ED: 10
Page: 5 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 20
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1851_102
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Dow 12
Andrew Dow 42
Elizabeth Dow 9
James Dow 3
Lean Dow 46
Mary Dow 6

Checking on the 1841 Census, I see John's (1847) grandmother was called Margaret.

I think somehow things have got criss crossed??

as there is a Jean Burns 1841...

Name: Jean Burns
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Where born: Perthshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Methven
County: Perthshire
Address: Methven West Half
Occupation: Female Servant
Parish Number: 380
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Can't find a John with mother Margaret, its possible she went by the name of Jean or Jane.

Have you tried looking for his parents marriage, that might help.

Shona got to go, MSN-ing with my brother, who lives a long way from me

all the best
Carrie

hi
i have marriage certificate here
it says in 1865 he was 22
his father was dead and mother margaret nee barns

thanks

Look at the address's on the 1861 Alviegal posted and the 1881 I posted, they are the same..


In Scotland the name Jane, Jean, Janet and Jessie Can all be the same person, confusing yes, but asomething you get used to...

1861 and 1881 are both West Bridge St for address

Shona, get the MC from scotlandspeople. It will tell you the name and occupations of both sets of parents and then you can work back.

Liz

look where
sorry i dont understand

Shona

Look at the address's in 1861 and 1881...

scotlands people dont goas far back for birth details

hi yes couldnt find anything

1861 Scotland Census
about John Dow
Name: John Dow
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Jean
Gender: Male
Where born: Methven, Perth
Registration Number: 479/1
Registration district: Falkirk Burgh
Civil Parish: Falkirk Burgh
County: Stirlingshire
Address: West Bridge St
Occupation: Shoe - Maker
ED: 6
Page: 3 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 15
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1861_64
Household Members:
Name Age
James Dow 55
James Dow 10
Jean Dow 50
Jean Dow 17
John Dow 13
Margaret Dow 15



1851 Scotland Census
about John Dow
Name: John Dow
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Jean
Gender: Male
Where born: Methven, Perthshire
Parish Number: 479
Civil Parish: Falkirk
Town: Gartcows
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Garcows
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 8
Page: 25 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 85
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1851_100
Household Members:
Name Age
James Dow 46
James Dow 1
Jean Dow 40
Jean Dow 8
John Dow 3
Margret Dow 5

Shona

Have you been on Scotlandspeople

thanks lol

yes mary maiden name was same name
thats them
do you hold any more details

sorry im new and not sure where to find more details

This is them in
1871
Name: John Dow
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Metham, Perthsh
Registration Number: 479/1
Registration district: Falkirk Burgh
Civil parish: Falkirk Burgh
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Pleasance Sq
Occupation: Shoe Maker
ED: 6
Page: 40 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 236
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1871_83
Household Members: Name Age
James Dow 7 Mo
John Dow 24
Mary Dow 25


Are you sure James didn't also go by the name John, as father John in 1881 has same Birth place and occupation..

Was Mary's actual Maiden name also Dow.

Hi Carrie dont think this is same person mother is Margaret
father James Dow