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What do you think of this family in 1881? The names seem to carry through the family.

George MARSH Head M Male 40 Nursling, Hampshire, England Dock Labourer
Ellen MARSH Wife M Female 40 Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
Robert MARSH Son Male 14 Millbrook, Hampshire, England Bricklayers Labourer
Caroline MARSH Daur Female 12 Millbrook, Hampshire, England Scholar
Frederick MARSH Son Male 8 Millbrook, Hampshire, England Scholar
Ernest MARSH Son Male 10 m Millbrook, Hampshire, England


Dwelling Millbrook Rd No 2 Millbrook Cotts
Census Place Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341299
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1222 / 118

Selena

I'm getting really confused! Is this the right Frederick Charles?

Births Sep 1872
MARSH Frederick Charles S. Stoneham 2c 66

The district S. Stoneham is an alternative name for South Stoneham and it is in the county of Hampshire

The above date ties in with what Rebecca said above.


Is this a possible marriage?

Marriages Sep 1902

Brickell Louisa Alice Southampton 2c 1
Marsh Frederick Charles Southampton 2c 1
Spearey Ezekiel Welch Southampton 2c 1
West Alice Ada Southampton 2c 1

Do you know if he had any children?

Selena

Is this George on the 1891?

MARSH, Annie Head Married F 41
Ireland
SMITH, Emma Sister In Law Widow F 36
Touiau Island
HARDMAN, Edward Father Widower M 68 Army Pensioner
Walworth
Surrey
MARSH, George Son M 9 Scholar
Southampton
Hampshire
SMITH, Ethel Niece F 2
London

Hi, a little more help please, frederick charles marsh died on the titanic and is buried in nova scotia, now the records say he was married but I cannot find any info anywhere for this, my uncles did not know about him until we unearthed the titanic story ! he was the only sibling of my gt gramp george henry born in southampton in 1881 and according to his age on the titanic records frederick was 39 when he died, and lived at either 4 bacl of walls or 24 asenpart st southampton but who with !!

Jules

I think you need the date of death to start with. Best to get his death certificate as it will also tell you where he died to help narrow it down.

Selena

Me again, is it possible to find out where some one is buried? I have george henry marsh who die in southampton around 1944-45 who had been married to emily who die in 1928. my uncle really wants to visit his grave but all the people that know have passed on and he cannot remember the exact date/year he die but does know it was around these date 44/45

Jules

sorry just asked my uncle and he said they don't think frederick charles was ever married ! help ha ha

rebbeca I am hoping we have something here, but frederick C was the brother of George H according to my uncles and the twins dad was Goerge H and their mum was emily !! the twins never again according to my uncles had any other siblings !

Hi Julie, are you sure frederick charles was a brother to the twins? if he was their brother there was a large age gap. Is it possible that frederick charles was the twins father, and george henry the twins grandfather. i found a marriage for frederick charles in 1902 which would coincide with the year the twins were born.
on the 1881 & 1891 census there is a George H Marsh (wife called emily) with a son called frederick birth is about 1874, this is close to the age of the frederick that was on the titanic, which states he was 39, which would have made his birth year 1873. it's a very good possibility.thanks rebecca

Thanks for your replies, I know he married a lady called emily but have no surname and they married before 1903 as my gramp and his twin where born then. they also lived in the southampton area, I have tried finding george on the census but again do not have parents names and his only brother die on the titanic, that says on one document that he was 28 and on another 39 !! so I gather he was born on or after 1873 as I know my gt gramp was born 1881 as I have that info.

Jules

http://www.gro.gov.uk you can order certificates from this offical site using index details they cost £7

Not sure about this, married a ? Whitfield

Marriages Jun 1922

MARSH Frederick Whitfield Southampton 2c 82

Julie, this is for FreeBMD. | think it goes up to the 1920's. http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Selena

I am really stuck at the moment as one of my uncles has asked me how you find where somewhere is buried ! can anyone tell me the brief outline of how I go about it please.

also does anyone know of a search site that tells you the name of the person the one you are looking for has married ?

Tks
Jules

There are a couple of pictures of 'Back of the Walls' on this site - the houses were literally built up against the city walls..
http://search.plimsoll.org/cgi-bin/dialogserver.exe?THRESHOLD=99&QUERY00=back+of+the+walls&db=plimsoll&PROP00=t%3Dp%2Cs%3Dall

The houses were mostly demolished in slum clearances after the war. There has been an archealogical dig in the area for the past few years, and lots of medieval artefacts found.

maggie

I think you would be better to wait until you have your gramps birth certificate before looking for great grandads death, so that you are sure you have the correct name.

Kath. x

Thanks so much all of you for the info on frederick and his job on the titantic, I will see if I can get a birth cert for my gramp amd his twin to go back further, can anyone find my gt gramps death ?

you are all brill and I knew you would help me as you all have in the past

xx
Julie

an F Marsh -Fireman is listed as an Engineering Crew member

According to the Crew List for the Titanic:-

Mr. Frederick Charles Marsh
Age 39
Engine class/dept.
Fireman/Stoker.
He joined the ship in Southampton.

Taken from this site:-

http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/manifest.php?q=21

Kath. x

http://www.titanicstory.com/pac.htm#M

says F Marsh = fireman