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John Milner

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Gordon

Gordon Report 7 Nov 2007 16:34

Anita
Thanks for this.I didn't know about this.Have got good info from everybody.

Gordon

Gordon

Gordon Report 7 Nov 2007 14:48

Margaret
Could very well be John's father.Would make his father 28.Your records much better than mine.Parents names also,thanks very much.

Gordon

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Nov 2007 14:45

The only reference that I can find for Harriet Roughton is a submitted record on IGI. Personally I have no faith in submitted records,
There is, however a christening of Harriet Pimm and it's extracted:
Harriet Gallier Pimm christened 9 Oct.1815, Measham, Derbyshire. Mother Ann Pimm.
An illegitimate child whose mother later married a Roughton causing the confusion?
Margaret

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Nov 2007 14:34

Was looking for the christening of your John Milner on the BVRI discs. Unfortunately the coverage of Staveley only goes up to 1812.
There is, however a John Milner christened there 17 June, 1792 with parents Benjamin & Elizabeth. Could this John be your John's father?
Margaret

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Gordon

Gordon Report 7 Nov 2007 14:15

Margaret
You are right,sorry about mistake.
Andy
Thanks for info.Maybe Harriet married twice as her maiden name must have been Roughton.It would explain why marriage details weren't found.

Gordon

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 7 Nov 2007 13:50

This could be the marriage

John Milner
Year of Registration: 1842
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Chesterfield
County: Derbyshire
Volume: 19
Page: 379

Harriet Pymm

which goes with the following from 1841
Harriet Pimm
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Measham
Hundred: Repton and Gresley
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England


Registration district: Ashby de la Zouch
Sub-registration district: Measham
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Harriet Pimm 25
Mary Pimm 60
Richard Pimm 8


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 191; Book: 21; Civil Parish: Measham; County: Derbyshire; Enumeration District: 2; Folio: 27; Page: 9; Line: 3; GSU roll: 241295.

and from the IGI extracted record

HARRIET PYMM

Parents:
Father: JERVIS ROUGHTON

Marriage:
Spouse: JOHN MILNER
Marriage: 21 JUN 1842 Staveley, Derby, England

Andy

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Nov 2007 13:36

You know, I wouldn't dream of putting a request on these boards unless I checked and double-checked that I had the facts right and hadn't made a typo.
Oops, the marriage was 1843 not 1872!

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Gordon

Gordon Report 7 Nov 2007 13:30

Potty
Sorry year should have been 1843.Have looked in BMD with no luck.
Anita
Thanks for info.No siblings unfortunately.
Margaret
Have got these details,thanks.
All answers appreciated.
Gordon

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Nov 2007 13:27

Married on the 61 census, too.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Nov 2007 13:24

They're married on the 1871 census and looks like they have been for a number of years. Oldest child with them is Ann, aged 27, blind.
Margaret

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Nov 2007 13:20

On the 1881 census Harriet is a widow. She was born 1815 Meesham, Derbyshire. She's living with children and grandchildren. Her 37 year old daughter, Ann, is blind.
Margaret

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Potty

Potty Report 7 Nov 2007 13:16

Are you sure about the year of their marriage. Can't find them in 1872 and Harriet would have been 59.

Potty

Potty Report 7 Nov 2007 13:12

Have you searched FreeBMD for the marriage? The cert would give you their father's names.

Gordon

Gordon Report 7 Nov 2007 13:07

Am trying to find parents and siblings of John Milner born 1820 in Staveley Derbyshire and also Harriet Roughton born c1813 in Mechem Derbyshire.They married in 1872 I think in Brampton Bierlow.Any help much appreciated.Thanks.