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1861 Census for London please

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Frances

Frances Report 11 Nov 2007 08:59

Using the info from the 1881 Census I have found

Births Jun 1852
BARNES George Samuel St Geo East 1c 397

who precisely matches.
I would like to know if he shows up with his family in the 1861 census please.

Many thanks,
Frances

Nicki

Nicki Report 11 Nov 2007 09:06

1861 - is this the family?

BARNES, William Head Married M 46 Green Grocer
St Georges East
Middlesex
BARNES, Elizabeth Wife Married F 36
St Georges East
Middlesex
BARNES, William Son Unmarried M 20
St Georges East
Middlesex
BARNES, George Son M 10
St Georges East
Middlesex
BARNES, Rosetta Daughter F 0 (10M)
Ratcliff
Middlesex

Frances

Frances Report 11 Nov 2007 09:18

Thank you Nicola, that certainly seems to match except I would only expect him to be 9/8?

Frances

Nicki

Nicki Report 11 Nov 2007 09:20

Frances

Your are welcome, hope it gave you some info you didnt already have.

Nicki

Julie

Julie Report 11 Nov 2007 09:48

Frances

Is this him in the 1881

George S. Barnes
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jessie
Gender: Male
Where born: London St Georges, London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St John Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 15 Richmond Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Stationers Asst

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Barnes
George A. Barnes 3
George S. Barnes 29
Jessie Barnes 28
Jessie Barnes 1



Julie

Julie Report 11 Nov 2007 09:54

If this is him in 1871, (M/C would confirm his dad)..This is the same family as Nicola found

George Barnes
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: St George in The East, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Stepney
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Ratcliff
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Ratcliff
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 139
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Barnes 45
George Barnes 19
Rosetta Barnes 10
William Barnes 58

Frances

Frances Report 11 Nov 2007 09:54

Hi Julie,
Yes that is the family in 1881 for Jessie 1, that I am working on.
At least George is 19 in '71 and 29 in '81 so that looks good.
From FreeBMD there is only one other George in St Georges East in 1852, a George Henry so, as you say, the M/C will be the clincher on this one.

Frances

Julie

Julie Report 11 Nov 2007 10:13

heres their marriage, just incase you havn't found it yet

Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>BAKER Jessie Shoreditch 1c 242
>>>BARNES George Samuel Shoreditch 1c 242
Bryant John Mason Shoreditch 1c 242
Small Sarah Ellen Shoreditch 1c 242

Frances

Frances Report 11 Nov 2007 10:32

Thanks Julie,
yes I have their marriage and Jessie Baker, who I have found as Jessie Emma Baker in 1853, is being as or more difficult to pin down as George!

Frances

p.s. delays in response are because I am trying to do chores in between.

Julie

Julie Report 11 Nov 2007 10:42

Francis..no worries about the delays, im doing bits aswell.

I know this ones age is out, but i think this is Jessie in the 1871

Jessie Baker
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William G
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Female
Where born: Shoreditch

Civil Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerston East
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur J Baker 13
Emma Baker 43
Emma E Baker 20
Jessie Baker 15
William G Baker 46


Frances

Frances Report 11 Nov 2007 10:52

Thanks Julie, yes that is one of the records I have been given and the 1861 for the same family shows as

Emma Baker 33
Emma Elizth Baker 10
Arthur John Becker 3
Jessie Becker 8 Bethnal Green
John Becker 11
William G Becker 37
Charlotte Buck 67
William Reavis 22
Charles Stock 21

but do you know your Middlesex - is Bethnal Green equivalent to Shoreditch??

Frances

Frances

Frances Report 11 Nov 2007 11:00

Julie I am glad you raised that as looking at it again and the map, Bethnal Green and Shoreditch are within walking distance! Especially if the house was half way between the two - lol

Frances