You have a choice at present on the 1901 census of this pair:
1901 England Census about Thomas Irving
Name: Thomas Irving Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Arthuret, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Arthuret Ecclesiastical parish: Arthuret St Michael County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View Image Registration district: Longtown Sub-registration district: Low Longtown ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Alexander C Irving 9 Elizabeth Irving 39 born: Warwick, Cumberland, John G Irving 3 Mary Ellen Irving 14 Robert Irving 40 born: Whale, Westmorland, Robert Irving 11 Sarah J Irving 7 Thomas Irving 2
Robert is a TEA MASTER
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4862; Folio: 51; Page: 4.
Then there is this chap who looks as if he has the middle name William
1901 England Census about Thos Wm Irving
Name: Thos Wm Irving Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Caldewgate Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View Image Registration district: Carlisle Sub-registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 105 Household Members: Name Age Allbuston Irving 7 Andrew Irving 19 Ellen Irving 39 born: Carlisle, Cumberland Jane Irving 10 John Irving 17 Joseph Irving 6 months Margaret J Irving 15 Nellie Irving 5 Robert Irving 42 born: Carlisle, Cumberland Robert Irving 13 Thos Wm Irving 2
Robert is a COOPER
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4869; Folio: 69; Page: 17.
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Do you know the occupations of both fathers? & of Thomas?
Are there any clues on the marriage certificate of the couple ? ie witnesses being possible siblings?
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My grandfather was Thomas Irving born 1898 son of Robert Irving. Cumberland. My grandmother was Margaret Gill born 1898 daughter of Robert Gill.
I thought i had got somewhere with Thomas but have then dound two Roberts and unsure where to go. I can not pick a thread up at all for Margaret.
If anyone could help i would be extremely grateful
love julie x
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