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hi lew
thanks for the info it ties in with what i was told as a young boy it looks like i got the wrong person born in india it looks like it was my great grandfarther and not my gg grandfarther.when i was in india a few years ago i was in madrass and we went into a church in st geoges fort now this might seem strange but whilst there i saw what looked like a wedding going on just then a man asked if he could help i said we will wait until the weeding was done he sid what wedding when i looked back no wedding the man was not put out by this and said it often happened and had i had any family in india in the time of the raj so i told him as i thought that my gg grandfarther had been born in india paticularly madras he asked for the family name and said that they may have records of the birth that was in 2001 i have heard nothing since so your info seems to confirm the conection so thanks for your help and if you have any connection to these people then we may be related thanks jim stansfield

1881 England Census
about John Lees
Name: John Lees
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Husband (Head) (Head)
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Tunstall, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Aldershot
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address: "45th Regt Sherwood Forstrs"
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Private

Registration district: Farnham
Sub-registration district: Frimley
ED, institution, or vessel: 45th Regiment Sherwood Foresters
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Lees 48
James Lees 9
John Lees 47
Moses Lees 11
Simon Lees 15

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Moses Leese
Name: Moses Leese
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Age at enlistment: 41
Birth County: Madras India
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 9196
Number of Images: 4

This is the closest birth registration I could find

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Moses Lees
Name: Moses Lees
Year of Registration: 1848
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Wolstanton
County: Staffordshire
Volume: 17
Page: 294

Mistranscribed, but image does read Moses

1861 England Census
about Awoes Leese
Name: Awoes Leese
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Brieryhurst
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub-registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 134
Household Members:
Name Age

Awoes Leese 13
George Leese 30
Hannah Leese 51 (born Cheshire)
Joseph Leese 55

Regards
Lewella

I am trying to find my great grandfarther Moses who came fron stoke on trent in the woolstanton area he had at least seven children. a son named Moses and six daughters named Nellie/elenor, Gladys(married Harold cartlidge) Sarah, Sally not sure which but one married Charlie Perry and adopted Stewart, Lillian (married Luke Brennan had a daughter Winnifred((married David Salt)) and three sons David Pat and Thomas{ex mayor of stoke on trent} and finally my grandmother Margret[maggie] (married Robert Arthur Timmins in 1925). all i know of moses was he died in approximately 1924.his grandfarther/farther may have lived in a village called Carmel near Holywell in Flintshire north waleles, i belive that my mother(Lillian Timmins)was sent there in the late thirties as she went to the convent school run by the nuns at Pantasaph where she had a very serious road accident and had a metal plate put into her skull, i was told that the people who she lived with were her great grand parents the man having been born in india in the Madrass area sometime in the 1840's to 50's i would be very greatful for any info as i cannot find any refere nces in the birth or marriages registers or the sensus reports of Moses or the people in wales