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Hi everyone

I am hoping someone can help me find the birth record and 1891 census the Hector Willmore, here he is below in 1901. He is not with his father in 1891 as I already have him.
I am desperate to find his birth detail to order his cert to establish who his mother was, and where exactly he was born.

Hector Willmore
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenfield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Norden
Ecclesiastical parish: Norden St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub-registration district: Spotland Further Side
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Household Members: Name Age
John Chapman 48
Mary Chapman 54
Charles A Hall 16
Edward Willmore 56
Hector Willmore 16

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3838; Folio: 156; Page: 13.

Heres hoping someone can spot him
Thanks
Ann

Ann

Are you certain that Edward was his father?

Angela

Sorry, I can't find him anywhere - only his marriage which you probably have:-

Name: Hector Willmore
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Rochdale
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 42

Kath. x

edward is a widow 1891

Do you have his marriage certificate for his father's name.


As Angela says, unless you are sure Edward is his father, the Edward on the 1901 census is old enough to be his grandfather.

Kath. x

Hi
Yes I do have his marriage and am waiting for the cert to arrive.
I am not sure Edward was his father, but, if hes not it a bit of a coincidence, I need to find out where he was born, as it narrows the area where Edwards daughter Catherine (Kate ) was married, her eldest child was born in Tong Yorkshire in 1890. I have them ALL except Hector on all the census, and cannot find her marriage to William Johnson.
What is it about this family!!!!

Ann

I think this is Edward Willmore in 1881 (his wife is Susan). It gives Willmore as an alternative name for him.:-

Name: Edward Williams
[Edward Willmore]
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susan
Gender: Male
Where born: Sudbury, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Saddleworth
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 27 Binn Green
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: General Laborer

Registration district: Saddleworth
Sub-registration district: Upper Mill
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Dawson 25
Richard Morsley 43
Fred Philips 27
Benjamin Thornton 45
Catherine Williams 9
Edward Williams 36
Emily Williams 15
Susan Williams 45

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4364; Folio: 22; Page: 38; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342042.


Kath. x

Is this Edward in 1881?

Edward Williams
[Edward Willmore]
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susan
Gender: Male
Where born: Sudbury, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Saddleworth
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 27 Binn Green
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: General Laborer

Registration district: Saddleworth
Sub-registration district: Upper Mill
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Dawson 25
Richard Morsley 43
Fred Philips 27
Benjamin Thornton 45
Catherine Williams 9
Edward Williams 36
Emily Williams 15
Susan Williams 45

And a marriage:

Marriages Sep 1874 (>99%)
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Mills Susannah Buckingham 3a 827
Willmore Edward Buckingham 3a 827

And a death:

Deaths Jun 1891 (>99%)
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Willmore Susannah 57 Huddersfield 9a 289


Looking at the age, it would seem unlikely that Susan (nah) was Hector's mother.

There is this marriage for a Kate Willmore in Buckinghamshire (Just a possibility):-

Name: Kate Willmore
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Berkhampstead (1837-1939)
County: Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 883

Kath. x

Hector cannot be Edwards granndson, as his first marriage to Rebecca Gibbard in 1868 produced 2 children Catherine borrn 1870 and Eliza whi died in infancy and Rebecca also died in 1874, the same year he remarried Susannah Mills.She died early in 1891. She did have a duaghter Emily who was with them on the 1881 census who also has disappeared, but she could heve got married

Could Hector have been Emily's son? You say that she has disappeared, Maybe Emily & Hector are together in 1891?

Angela

Mmm I haadnt thought he could have been Emily's son, although her name wasnt Willmore she was a Mills but did appear to use the name Willmore.
Darned this family, All I want is the marriage record for Catherine and William Johnson and it is not on Ancestry.