I am trying to find information on the following people: Charles Murray c1850, his partner Catherine Smith c1850 and Charles Anthony Murray 1916 and his partner Cecilia Mongahan 1925. It is believed that the family lived the North of England, possibly the Middlesbrough area. Charles Murray(the younger) also lived in Stevenage during the 1950's. If anybody has anything they think would help, could they please contact me? In anticipation, many thanks. Margaret
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I have to admit I don't know the geography, but I'm wondering whether these might be them in 1881:
Name: Charles Murray Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Catherine Gender: Male Where born: Tarpenhow, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Kyo County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: Catchgate Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Merchant Tailor Registration district: Lanchester Sub-registration district: Tanfield ED, institution, or vessel: 11
George Marr 25 Catherine Murray 34 Charles Murray 55
Perhaps a better match in 1891:
Name: Catherine Murray Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Chas Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Bootle Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Bootle County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Walton ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Catherine Murray 40 Catherine Murray 10 Chas Murray 41 Chas Murray 4 Edward Murray 16 Mary A Murray 1 Mary Reynolds 60
FreeBMD shows no Charles Murray - Catherine Smith marriage 1860 to 1900.
Would this be Charles Anthony?
Name: Charles A Murray Year of Registration: 1915 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Mother's Maiden Name: Cameron District: Tynemouth County: Northumberland Volume: 10b Page: 437
There's a possible marriage of a Martin Murray and a Janet Florence Cameron in West Derby in 1906. And a Flora A R Murray, mother Cameron, was born in Leeds in 1913.
Aha -- in 1901:
Name: Martin Murray Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Brother (of the head of household) Mother's Name: Catherine Gender: Male Where born: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Name: Catherine Murray Age: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Mother Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Birkenhead Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Registration district: Birkenhead Sub-registration district: Birkenhead ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Household schedule number: 94
Benj J Marsden 15 Catherine Murray 65 Martin Murray 25 Mary Murray 24 Patk Murray 27 Susan Murray 23 Wm James Murray 2
-- but no -- in 1891, his father is Martin.
In the next generation, there's this marriage:
Name: Charles Murray Year of Registration: 1913 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Spouse: Esther Cohen District: West Derby County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 786
Leading to this birth:
Name: Charles E Murray Year of Registration: 1913 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Mother's Maiden Name: Cohen District: West Derby County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 1107
FreeBMD has no Charles Murray born 1916 at all. This could be because the transcriptions are incomplete.
Ah yes. I checked the images:
Charles A Murray 2nd quarter 1916 Middlesbro vol 9d, page 945 mother's surname: Smith
Huh! That will be him -- with a mother who's a Smith.
A whole lot of Murrays married Smiths. You'd have to get the birth cert to learn the parents' names. That should help a lot.
That is, if you don't already know.
I should have asked first -- what was it you were wanting to know??
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