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I think we should wait - well no, we should work - LOL until Margaret gets back and gives us the 1881 information which Ive had a quick look for but it doesnt jump out so I better do some paid work here :) We may have the completely wrong girl here.

Margaret - `1881 details please.

Interesting family in the 1851 census.

Name: Margaret A Inness
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne

Civil Parish: Westgate
Town: Newcastle
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Westgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 3i

Household schedule number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Inness 14
John Inness 46
Margaret A Inness

I supposed to be working too!

I'll check back later

Try Inness for the birth Pete (Im supposed to be working here - LOL!) Hubby is a good deal older than Ellen.

The Ramsay girl staying with them 1861 is the sister in law.

Charles Crawford 39
Ellen Crawford 23
Gazajena Crawford 4
John C Crawford 1
Margaret Ramsay 19





1878 marriage - would be nice if we had some input here??
Record
Elizabeth Constance Brett 1878 Jan-Feb-Mar Brighton Sussex, East Sussex
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Gazajena Inness Crawford 1878 Jan-Feb-Mar Brighton Sussex, East Sussex
View Record
Herbert Evans 1878 Jan-Feb-Mar Brighton Sussex, East Sussex
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Walter Warden Rayward 1878 Jan-Feb-Mar Brighton Sussex, East Sussex

Can't see parents marriage either.

Will check the LancsBMD site just in case they have some clues

Born Manchester then - not France. Still cant see the birth ref - can you Pete? Hmm,. the name Inness in the middle there - possibly pre the Crawford marriage?

She is in Brighton in the 1871 and 1861 census too


1861
Charles Crawford abt 1822 Clifton, Gloucestershire, Head Brighton Sussex
Ellen Crawford abt 1838 Gateshead, Durham, Wife Brighton Sussex
Gazajena Crawford abt 1857 Manchester, Lancashire, Daughter
John C Crawford abt 1860 Brighton, Sussex, Son

Was she CRAWFORD?

there is a marriage in 1878 in Brighton.

Marriages Mar 1878 (>99%)
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Crawford Gazajena Inness Brighton 2b 366

What place of birth is given on the 1881?

Who did she marry? The name sounds more Italian to me?

Is that her first name or surname? If her first name, what is her surname?

When/where was the marriage?

At the moment nothing is coming up with that as either a first name or surname on freebmd?

Hello Ann
Thanks for info. She appears on 1881 census. i have also sent off for wedding cert 1878 which may give me more info. no i dont know where she was born. family story is she ran away from parents in Paris. father was dentist. but how true all this is i dont know. i have been told that Gazzjena's daughter spoke fluent french. im asking older members of family that are left but surviving person is in 90's. Thanks again if you can think of anything else i would be pleased to hear from you.

Regards
Margaret

Margaret

To find birth record for someone born in France, you would need to know where she was born, as records are held locally, rather than nationally. Did this person come to England? Have you found her on a census?

trying to find Gazzjena or spelt Garrjena or Gazajned. born about 1854. Story goes she might have been born in France. Does any know of this woman or if not does anyone know if i can access french records.