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How do I get a marriage/birth certificate from Eng

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Leeanne

Leeanne Report 20 Nov 2007 09:34

Hi can any one tell me how I go about getting a marriage certificate from England for Elizabeth Julian and Thomas Rusden. I know they married 1837 Cornwall England. The birth certificate for Thomas Rusden born 30th May 1811 St Gluvias, Cornwall England.

Many thanks for any help

Leeanne in OZ

Penny

Penny Report 20 Nov 2007 09:37

certs didnt happen until 1837 - so there will be no birth cert for an 1811 birth.

I'll have a look and see if the marriage was registered - I cant remember off hand what time of the year in 1837 they started.

update - no its not

Have had a look at the IGI- marriage is there, but its submitted

Leeanne

Leeanne Report 20 Nov 2007 09:44

If there are no cert before 1837 how would I got about finding out who his parents are or if he has any siblings?

Cheers Lee

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 20 Nov 2007 09:44

You need a reference from a site such as free bmd, then you can order it on liner from the gro.
I have looked for your marriage and it isn't there, so it won't have been registered. The system was only just being set up in 1837.
The best you could do is to view the original parish records for the marriage. This will only show you the name of both of them, if they were bachelor, spinster, or widows. It will give the ages, or say of full age if they were over 21. It will have the witnesses, who may be family members, it won't have fathers names.
You can order the film to your nearest LDS centre in Oz.
Linda

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 20 Nov 2007 09:51

THOMAS RUSDEN Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
30 JUN 1811 Saint Gluvias, Cornwall, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: FRANCIS RUSDEN Family
Mother: NANCY

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 20 Nov 2007 09:56

Someone has submitted this entry themselves, so it has to be taken with care, the other one was extracted from the parish records, so is likely to be more reliable.

Thomas Rusden Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
30 MAY 1811 St Cluvias, , Cornwall, England
Death:
11 SEP 1875 , Auckland, New Zealand
Burial:

Leeanne

Leeanne Report 20 Nov 2007 10:27

Thanks Linda

I did know of Francis Rusden and Nancy. I think Nancy is nee Rollin on LSD site but I have not been able to find any record of them anywhere else. So I can not be 100% sure that they are Thomas's parents.

The Rusden's are a very big clan but family was never talked able. My father was the last of his family to die. I did know of some cousins but have found many many more doing tree. They are from his many sisters. But tracing the male Rusdens is near impossible. Starting to think they came from outer space lol.

Cheers Lee

Neil

Neil Report 20 Nov 2007 10:29

from the Cornwall Online Parish Clerks site:

Year Parish Forename Surname
08-Nov 1838 Helston Thomas RUSDEN More info
03-May 1840 Helston Richard Frances RUSDEN More info

Both have parents of Thomas/Elizabeth. There are others who could be related.

Link is: http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/searchdb.php?yr=&pr=&forename=&surname=Rusden&records=50&dbname=baptisms&Submit=Search

Also Marriage from the same site:

Year
Parish/Reg District Groom:
Forename
Surname Bride:
Forename
Surname
Witness 1/2
14-Aug 1838 Helston Thomas RISDEN Elizabeth JULIAN Toy / ??? More info

Again there are many more.

Link: http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/searchdb.php?yr=&pr=&gfn=&gsn=Rusden&bfn=&bsn=&wit=&records=50&Soundex=Soundex&dbname=marriages&Submit=Search

Neil

Neil Report 20 Nov 2007 10:36

From FamilHistoryonline.net (it's a pay site but most of the searches are around 4p-10p mark)

1. Parish St Gluvias Name Thomas RUSDEN Sex M Relationship Son Date 30 Jun 1811 Father Francis RUSDEN Mother Nancy - Alt. Mother – Alt. Father – Alt. Surname –
Amount paid £0.07

Leeanne

Leeanne Report 20 Nov 2007 11:47

Neil thanks for that. The Thomas and Richard you found are 2 of their 10 children. Unsure if others are family. Can you please give me more on the pay site as all I get is a page with gene sites to pick from

Cheers Leeanne

Neil

Neil Report 20 Nov 2007 15:29

Doh - missed the y off family!!

Here is the link: http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/

Leeanne

Leeanne Report 21 Nov 2007 09:54

Thanks so much for than Neil

Cheers Leeanne

Leeanne

Leeanne Report 21 Nov 2007 11:10

Neil I found 1 sibling of Thomas's on that site so I am sure I will find others.

How can I thank you.

Leeanne in OZ

Neil

Neil Report 21 Nov 2007 12:34

No need Leeanne. My family is from Cornwall too so i've used the site a great deal. I am lucky that most of them seemed to have stayed in one of 2 villages back to the 1500's!